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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion
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It’s A Bird, It’s A Plane, It’s A Box Office Hit: ‘Superman’ Opening To $123M – Sunday AM Update
'Superman' is opening to $123M, the second best opening ever for director James Gunn.deadline.com
Hard to know where this will finish as every international update is worse than the previous one - so it needs domestic box office to keep strong over next couple of weeks.
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By far the best Superman film to date, but that's not saying much. It was certainly a fun movie. Krypto and Mister Terrific steal the show. David Corenswet is an excellent Supes. I enjoyed the majority of the cast. The Justice Gang was a hoot.
Unfortunately, the movie-Lex tradition continues and he sucks. Can we please just get a 90s animated version on screen? This Gene Hackman inspired comedy shit is exactly that... shit. I also didn't care for this version of Lois. There were no star reporter vibes at all and she sorta felt shoe-horned in.
Again, it was fun and I'm happy I saw it in a theater, but the film is nowhere close to other Gunn films like Guardians. I was expecting a lot more and overrated certainly fits the bill.
By far the best Superman film to date, but that's not saying much. It was certainly a fun movie. Krypto and Mister Terrific steal the show. David Corenswet is an excellent Supes. I enjoyed the majority of the cast. The Justice Gang was a hoot.
Unfortunately, the movie-Lex tradition continues and he sucks. Can we please just get a 90s animated version on screen? This Gene Hackman inspired comedy shit is exactly that... shit. I also didn't care for this version of Lois. There were no star reporter vibes at all and she sorta felt shoe-horned in.
Again, it was fun and I'm happy I saw it in a theater, but the film is nowhere close to other Gunn films like Guardians. I was expecting a lot more and overrated certainly fits the bill.
According to Gunn, it's because the company is still in the family name and he wants to leave open the possibility to introduce Luthor's father or sister in future movies.
The Post-Crisis version of Sam Lane as a military man who disliked Superman pretty much was Thunderbolt Ross...in fact, he was a retired Major at first who just didn't like Clark and then it gradually got changed again so now he was a retired General, then an active General and now he disliked Clark AND Superman.
So his "Rossification" got more and more pronounced as time went on. They even had Lois' mom be dead and this be a reason for the wedge between Lois and Sam....even though they had Lois' mom be alive in an earlier story and be a supporter of her marriage to Clark.
The version of him from the Geoff Johns miniseries back in 2008 (I think it was called Secret Origin?) was basically Johns just reusing the same Hector Hammond/Hal Jordan/Carol Ferris thing he did in a GL miniseries and combining it with the Bruce Banner/Major Talbot/Betty Ross plotline where Ross wanted Betty to be with Talbot, except now it was Sam Lane wanting Lois to be with "Sergent John Corben" because he wanted Corben to be his son.
I couldn't STAND Luthor in BvS. I remember watching the movie and thinking "WTF is this actor doing? That's not Lex Luthor."He's the first screen version of Luthor who conveys real menace and danger, not to mention intelligence. All previous live action versions other than S&L have been buffoonish and played for laughs.
Oh, I forgot the weird kid in Snyder's movies. Everyone does.
Vanishingly tiny minority opinion, but I rather enjoyed Eisenberg’s Luthor. The eccentric performance brought some welcome color and energy to the determinedly dour and po-faced proceedings. (And the Jolly Rancher bit makes me laugh every time.) He and the splendid Amy Adams are pretty much the only reasons the thing is even marginally watchable.
But that’s just me.
I've been back and forth a bit in the announcement for this, BTS photos, trailers, etc.. and then news of certain people casted/characters being used...
I'm giving a solid B+. I don't think it's the greatest Superman movie ever. I don't think it's one of the best comic book movies ever... but I like a lot of what was done.
I think there could have been more Superman/Lois. Especially since it's the first movie. They were both off doing their own thing most of the movie.
I think both of the performances for Superman/Clark and Lois were very good and I liked how the characters were written. I think was just enough of modernization put onto their classical takes.
For as much as I absolutely hated the Zod/Superman fight from Man of Steel (and how Superman acts in a lot of the Snyder movies) I absolutely LOVED how he was presented here. Superman in this movie was always trying to protect others.
Although I did have one lingering question through-out most of the movie.
Does Jimmy Olsen have some kind of metahuman cupid power? No offense to the actor, but umm I'm not seeing the overwhelming sex appeal lol.
I'm giving a solid B+. I don't think it's the greatest Superman movie ever. I don't think it's one of the best comic book movies ever... but I like a lot of what was done.
I think there could have been more Superman/Lois. Especially since it's the first movie. They were both off doing their own thing most of the movie.
I think both of the performances for Superman/Clark and Lois were very good and I liked how the characters were written. I think was just enough of modernization put onto their classical takes.
For as much as I absolutely hated the Zod/Superman fight from Man of Steel (and how Superman acts in a lot of the Snyder movies) I absolutely LOVED how he was presented here. Superman in this movie was always trying to protect others.
Although I did have one lingering question through-out most of the movie.
Does Jimmy Olsen have some kind of metahuman cupid power? No offense to the actor, but umm I'm not seeing the overwhelming sex appeal lol.
I feel like this is pretty much the gag. Even Lois is like, “What is it with you?”
Probably short-handing it for the audience.
I actually thought Gunn was doing a misdirect here, and we were gonna find out that Jimmy hasn't come out to his coworkers as gay, but for whatever reason he's irresistible to the ladies.
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