Spoilers Supergirl - Season 5

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Add to that the fact that Berlanti is on a huge deal with them and WB, and I would find it incredibly hard to imagine that they'd even mention the word "cancellation" with regards to Supergirl unless Berlanti specifically isn't opposed to it. They're not going to risk pissing off the EP of basically what amounts to 80% of their top shows on the network.

Or that Melissa Benoist decides to end the adventure when her contract of 6 or 7 years will be over. She will have been at the end of her engagement so the production couldn't blame her leaving the show still in progress With a very young child to care and a husband working on the East Coast of USA, maybe her priorities will change and after to have had her other half supporting her for years, she would want to reciprocate the gesture (especially if his show works) for a some time before finding a new acting job.

And then, it is also important too, to know when and how
to stop an adventure like a show. Often, years after, the producer(s) and actors admit too often, not having been able to stop their shows in time in order to not annoy their fans.
IF Berlanti really respects Benoist (I'm not so sure since s3 according to bad work made but with this season, they reach a new level!), I hope that he will reserve a beautiful closure to the adventure of Girl of Steel.

 

[TheMadCloner]

Or that Melissa Benoist decides to end the adventure when her contract of 6 or 7 years will be over. She will have been at the end of her engagement so the production couldn't blame her leaving the show still in progress With a very young child to care and a husband working on the East Coast of USA, maybe her priorities will change and after to have had her other half supporting her for years, she would want to reciprocate the gesture (especially if his show works) for a some time before finding a new acting job.

And then, it is also important too, to know when and how
to stop an adventure like a show. Often, years after, the producer(s) and actors admit too often, not having been able to stop their shows in time in order to not annoy their fans.
IF Berlanti really respects Benoist (I'm not so sure since s3 according to bad work made but with this season, they reach a new level!), I hope that he will reserve a beautiful closure to the adventure of Girl of Steel.

Fair points.

Ultimately I think the series will go 7 seasons. I think if Melissa and Berlanti didn't have the kind of close working relationship that they do, she may have been tempted to try and find a out after season 6.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or that Melissa Benoist decides to end the adventure when her contract of 6 or 7 years will be over. She will have been at the end of her engagement so the production couldn't blame her leaving the show still in progress With a very young child to care and a husband working on the East Coast of USA, maybe her priorities will change and after to have had her other half supporting her for years, she would want to reciprocate the gesture (especially if his show works) for a some time before finding a new acting job.

And then, it is also important too, to know when and how
to stop an adventure like a show. Often, years after, the producer(s) and actors admit too often, not having been able to stop their shows in time in order to not annoy their fans.
IF Berlanti really respects Benoist (I'm not so sure since s3 according to bad work made but with this season, they reach a new level!), I hope that he will reserve a beautiful closure to the adventure of Girl of Steel.

Her priorities already changed.

Only the morally defunct inflict Bangs on themselves, unless it's becuase of a dare, or a bet, and even then, dire reprobates deserving years of therapy and acupuncture.

 

[Captain Crow]

Apparently, you have not

I have a Genesis/Mega Drive model 2 and a PlayStation model SCPH-5501. Both bought new in the 1990's as Christmas presents. Both still played with to this very day. I also have several 1990's era games installed on my computer right now.

So yes I'm quite familiar with how they look and the SFX look nothing like them.

vignettes in late 90s games were the most "advanced" part of the game, but is incredibly cartoonish by today's standard.

So now you're moving the goal posts.

You said 1990's games not late 1990's pre-rendered cutscenes (I'm guessing that's what you mean by "vignettes"). There's a difference between the two. Though it really doesn't matter as the show's SFX don't look like them either.

No one would ever accept that excuse for a professional TV series.

It's not an excuse. It's a simple fact.

A film has a larger budget to work with and bit more time to polish things.

A TV series of about twenty episodes, which equates to the running time of about eight or nine films, has a lower budget to work with and quicker turn around.

Black Lightning is another CW/DC series, but its SFX are not amateurish / video gamey at all, and has just as many story demands for the fantastic in every episode.

It doesn't have as many episodes as this show. It didn't have an episode in the big crossover event.

Hell, Star Trek fan films such as Star Trek Continues had superior SFX to Supergirl, and they are in not in the same universe of budget as a TV series from a major production company.

One was made by a group who could spend their sweet time and produced one to three episodes a year. The other is made company that has to crank out stuff for 20 some odd episodes for this show as well as the stuff for the other Arrowverse shows yearly.

Not really comparable to each other.

 

[Snaploud]

Or that Melissa Benoist decides to end the adventure when her contract of 6 or 7 years will be over.

Possibly. There are usually major financial incentives to stick around for a couple years post-contract renegotiation, though. For instance, I heard she is making $75,000 an episode and that Stephen Amell was recently earning $125,000 an episode. A potential pay bump of $50,000 an episode has to look appealing.

Plus, she may want to continue playing Supergirl as way to boost her campaign against the stigma of mental illness.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Her priorities already changed.

Only the morally defunct inflict Bangs on themselves, unless it's becuase of a dare, or a bet, and even then, dire reprobates deserving years of therapy and acupuncture.

Ah yes, I recognize that the bangs were not a wise choice, Maybe, when she will be back, her hair will be again like before s5! The wigs used this season were really horrible!

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Possibly. There are usually major financial incentives to stick around for a couple years post-contract renegotiation, though. For instance, I heard she is making $75,000 an episode and that Stephen Amell was recently earning $125,000 an episode. A potential pay bump of $50,000 an episode has to look appealing.

Plus, she may want to continue playing Supergirl as way to boost her campaign against the stigma of mental illness.

Well, indeed, she could accept to do like Arnell and accept to make a very last season but a shorter one (though I think that s6 will be already short than ususal with maybe 13 episodes ...) IF the quality is here. I guess that as seeing as Superman will be on air, we will have an episode where Supergirl will pay a visit to her cousin in next season and why not another one where Batwoman will come to NC for whatever reason... (it seems that producers want to pair them like thay had pair Arrow and Flash).

As for the association, she could make ads for donations. She doesn't need Supergirl to boost the campaign. Besides, is she really involved? It seemed to me that it was just her hubby who was and well, she followed so.

 

[JD]

Apparently, you have not; vignettes in late 90s games were the most "advanced" part of the game, but is incredibly cartoonish by today's standard.

I've been playing video games since the early '90s and what we are getting in Supergirl are a hell of a lot better than what we got back them.
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If anything I'd say what we're getting is pretty close to what we see in modern games.

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No one would ever accept that excuse for a professional TV series. Black Lightning is another CW/DC series, but its SFX are not amateurish / video gamey at all, and has just as many story demands for the fantastic in every episode. Hell, Star Trek fan films such as Star Trek Continues had superior SFX to Supergirl, and they are in not in the same universe of budget as a TV series from a major production company. Just no excuse.

This is a CW series, it's pretty much the lowest level of the networks, and it's probably got about a 5th of the budget of one big summer blockbuster for the entire season. And probably have significantly less of a budget than shows on cable channels, streaming, or even the big 3 networks.
I loved that Sun Eater sequence, I thought it was one of the most impressive effects sequences I've seen on the Arrowverse shows.
Black Lightning also doesn't have nearly the same kind of complex and frequent effect sequences as Supergirl, so they can probably spend a lot more money on the sequences they do have.
And a fan film like Star Trek Continues operates on such a totally different level from a weekly TV series that it's not really a fair comparison.
I enjoyed the episode, it was pretty fun seeing how Lex has been manipulating things all season. It still wasn't at the same level of some of the earlier seasons, but it was at least better than most of the rest of this season.

 

[Masiral]

I have a Genesis/Mega Drive model 2 and a PlayStation model SCPH-5501. Both bought new in the 1990's as Christmas presents. Both still played with to this very day. I also have several 1990's era games installed on my computer right now.

So yes I'm quite familiar with how they look and the SFX look nothing like them.


So now you're moving the goal posts.

You said 1990's games not late 1990's pre-rendered cutscenes (I'm guessing that's what you mean by "vignettes"). There's a difference between the two. Though it really doesn't matter as the show's SFX don't look like them either.


It's not an excuse. It's a simple fact.

A film has a larger budget to work with and bit more time to polish things.

A TV series of about twenty episodes, which equates to the running time of about eight or nine films, has a lower budget to work with and quicker turn around.


It doesn't have as many episodes as this show. It didn't have an episode in the big crossover event.



One was made by a group who could spend their sweet time and produced one to three episodes a year. The other is made company that has to crank out stuff for 20 some odd episodes for this show as well as the stuff for the other Arrowverse shows yearly.

Not really comparable to each other.

Plus, there's the whole global viral outbreak thing. These SFX were probably done from home, so I wouldn't expect top-shelf quality.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Surely all work seen, was completed before lockdown?

 

[JD]

I don't know, some shows and movies will cut it pretty close sometimes.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Jason Mews as Mississippi farmer.

How much weed are you growing that your need a full sized tractor?

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Can anyone explain why people popped in their obsidian lens when the suneater was about to eat the sun? Was it their way to die in the company of others, in VR?

Or did they think they were actually protecting themselves in there?

And if the Leviathan goddess wanted to kill everyone while in VR, why didn't she kill off those who did mimic an ostrich and a sandy bank?

I will say one thing about season 5. I no longer care if Katie Mcgath wants to leave at the end of the season. TPTB have destroyed the Kara/Lena friendship so effectively that I won't miss her even a teensy bit when she leaves.

On the other hand, I will ALWAYS miss the Kara/Alex relationship and hope they revive it to its former glory when season 6 returns. In fact the main reason I watch this show is for the strong female characters & their friendships.

Getting back to this season, any thoughts on Jon Cryer's suggestion that season 5's finale is being adjusted?

 

[TheMadCloner]

I've been playing video games since the early '90s and what we are getting in Supergirl are a hell of a lot better than what we got back them.
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If anything I'd say what we're getting is pretty close to what we see in modern games.

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This is a CW series, it's pretty much the lowest level of the networks, and it's probably got about a 5th of the budget of one big summer blockbuster for the entire season. And probably have significantly less of a budget than shows on cable channels, streaming, or even the big 3 networks.
I loved that Sun Eater sequence, I thought it was one of the most impressive effects sequences I've seen on the Arrowverse shows.
Black Lightning also doesn't have nearly the same kind of complex and frequent effect sequences as Supergirl, so they can probably spend a lot more money on the sequences they do have.
And a fan film like Star Trek Continues operates on such a totally different level from a weekly TV series that it's not really a fair comparison.
I enjoyed the episode, it was pretty fun seeing how Lex has been manipulating things all season. It still wasn't at the same level of some of the earlier seasons, but it was at least better than most of the rest of this season.

Agreed about the Sun Eater sequence. It looked pretty good to my eye when I was watching it live. Aside from the Martian faces (which have looked plastic for the entire run of the series, so it's probably not going to change anytime soon), the rest of the sequence was done well I thought. The up close shot of the Suneater with the sun in the background was amazing IMO.

 

[CorporalClegg]

The CGI in the Arrowverse is pretty trash all around. But as bad as 90s videogames? No.

I'd say it's closer to mid-seventh generation, which is still well below the high mark of modern TV shows.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Can anyone explain why people popped in their obsidian lens when the suneater was about to eat the sun? Was it their way to die in the company of others, in VR?

Or did they think they were actually protecting themselves in there?

And if the Leviathan goddess wanted to kill everyone while in VR, why didn't she kill off those who did mimic an ostrich and a sandy bank?

I will say one thing about season 5. I no longer care if Katie Mcgath wants to leave at the end of the season. TPTB have destroyed the Kara/Lena friendship so effectively that I won't miss her even a teensy bit when she leaves.

On the other hand, I will ALWAYS miss the Kara/Alex relationship and hope they revive it to its former glory when season 6 returns. In fact the main reason I watch this show is for the strong female characters & their friendships.

Getting back to this season, any thoughts on Jon Cryer's suggestion that season 5's finale is being adjusted?

The Ostriches were not going to the playground, they were going to a current affairs zone, where they get a better tackle on what is going on than say, looking up.

 

[Christopher]

Can anyone explain why people popped in their obsidian lens when the suneater was about to eat the sun? Was it their way to die in the company of others, in VR?

Not to die, necessarily, just to retreat into a cozy distraction while trusting that the superheroes would save the day as usual. It's part of the season's misguided theme that computers and social media are an unhealthy escape from real life.

Getting back to this season, any thoughts on Jon Cryer's suggestion that season 5's finale is being adjusted?

I certainly hope it is. The season's theme that "technology is evil because it isolates us from each other" has proven to be dreadfully ill-timed and profoundly out of step with the reality we're now living in. I objected it from the start, but it's become a total embarrassment to the show at this point. So I sincerely hope they change whatever resolution they were aiming for in favor of something less tragically tone-deaf.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It's not an excuse. It's a simple fact.

No, that is an excuse, and in this day and age, there is no excuse for video-gamey SFX on an allegedly professional TV series that is not some low-budget, independent production, but a co-production with a major studio.

A film has a larger budget to work with and bit more time to polish things.

Black Lightning is not a movie.

It doesn't have as many episodes as this show. It didn't have an episode in the big crossover event.

Now you're really being desperate and its nonsensical. Black Lightning's SFX were superior all along--including the seasons where there was no COIE crossover for SG. This has been a problem with this series' SFX from the start.

One was made by a group who could spend their sweet time and produced one to three episodes a year.

You just defended SG's poor SFX with the excuse that it lacks a movie budget (when no one ever mentioned movie budgets or SFX), now, you're defending it against a fan film which cannot come close to the budget for a major, weekly TV series. You cannot have it both ways. There's a problem with those who provide the SFX for SG, and after decades of CG FX, no company should ever approve of the kind of crap (Martians, SG in space) seen in this latest episode.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

And if the Leviathan goddess wanted to kill everyone while in VR, why didn't she kill off those who did mimic an ostrich and a sandy bank?

Wait a second--according to this senseless Leviathan plot, weren't they were responsible for many natural disasters throughout earth history? If so, even with a hint of that kind of power, why the Hell do they need to use anything else in order to lay waste to anything or anyone? No matter what the SG team has attempted to stop them, the Leviathans are still rolling along...

I will say one thing about season 5. I no longer care if Katie Mcgath wants to leave at the end of the season. TPTB have destroyed the Kara/Lena friendship so effectively that I won't miss her even a teensy bit when she leaves.

Don't you worry, despite Lena committing several astoundingly immoral acts, the showrunners have--in all likelihood--slapped together a completely unbelievable reconciliation moment, using Lex as the fall guy and ignoring how Lena is no heroine after everything she has had her hands in for several seasons.

On the other hand, I will ALWAYS miss the Kara/Alex relationship and hope they revive it to its former glory when season 6 returns. In fact the main reason I watch this show is for the strong female characters & their friendships.[/quite]

Alex has been so sidelined over the past two seasons. She's essentially an afterthought aside from one recent episode, and whether she gets her old job back or not, she has little to do.

 

[Tuskin38]

there is no excuse for video-gamey SFX

I would agree if it looked Video-gamey.