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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 5

As I said, it's like a tennis dress, a garment specifically designed for athletic activity in public. It's essentially a pair of good, solid shorts with a purely cosmetic skirt over it. If it's dignified enough for Wimbledon, it should be fine anywhere.

The person wearing it disagrees. She also said it's cold.

Seems simple enough.
 
Lena has occasionally dipped into more of a gray zone, but she's still never gone full on villain. She can also come into conflict and disagree with Superhirl without actually turning into a full on villain.

Human experimentation with alien materials, developing Kryptonite, etc., is not something the characters would see as being in a gray zone, unless they want to wash that all away in favor of a bland "friendship" plot. From an audience POV, I've said Lena making Kryptonite is her own business (as its not technically a criminal act), but I still recognize that she is not the equivalent of SG's other friends. As mentioned earlier, even James wanted to investigate her--and this is after they had been in a relationship--so Lena is not getting a free pass about her character, nor should she. No one is arguing she has to be like Lex or her mother, but she is not strange bedfellows with her own kind of corruption.

Add that to being betrayed by everyone she seemed to be close to, and if played realistically, there's no excuse that should simply pacify her for months/years of mistrust and outright lies--while they worked against her on several occasions.
 
I just don’t think her new suit will draw numbers in the men demographic. Might actually hurt them. :)
 
Seems silly to get so upset about a costume. I think it looks better with pants and it’s what the actress wanted. It also makes it look like Kara is growing into Earth’s protector, more a Superwoman than a Supergirl.

It really makes you wonder about the thought processes behind the arguments.

Shades of Sevens' catsuit methinks, where feminism is an artefact of the males creating it and the appetites of those viewing it.

"It's empowering for her to be able to express her sexuality" is a classic line. Actually it's empowering when she has a choice in the matter and doesn't want hypothermia (or asphyxia, sorry Miss Ryan).
 
I just don’t think her new suit will draw numbers in the men demographic. Might actually hurt them. :)
It looks to me they went from skirt to catsuit so I don't understand this issue on sexy lookinq angle. This is still a CW show that is still in the boner creating business. You would think they would have put her in mom jeans with all the comotion. Jason
 
It looks to me they went from skirt to catsuit so I don't understand this issue on sexy lookinq angle. This is still a CW show that is still in the boner creating business. You would think they would have put her in mom jeans with all the comotion. Jason
It’s a “The Boys” reference. :)
 
"Woman wears trousers" would have been a shocking headline in 1919 maybe.

We've moved on a century since then, well... some have.

We won't really have "moved on" until it's equally acceptable for men to wear dresses (or for women to keep wearing them). It's still sexist to think that traditionally male clothing is automatically more respectable for both sexes than traditionally female clothing.

Or how about we just generally stop judging other people's sartorial choices as a measure of their worth?
 
We won't really have "moved on" until it's equally acceptable for men to wear dresses (or for women to keep wearing them). It's still sexist to think that traditionally male clothing is automatically more respectable for both sexes than traditionally female clothing.

Or how about we just generally stop judging other people's sartorial choices as a measure of their worth?

She was cold.

It's that simple.

You have no idea what is or isn't sexist.
 
So like superhero comics have been for decades.

If comic books have been as political and as poorly written as Supergirl has been the last couple of years when they delve into politics, they would never have been so popular. We have decades of cartoons and tv shows and movies that have not been as horribly political as Supergirl, and that's a good thing.

It's incredibly simplistic and erroneous to limit the definition of "justice" to crime and punishment. Justice means rightfulness and morality, fairness, treating people as they deserve. Discrimination by race, sex, orientation, etc. is an injustice. The government infringing on civil rights is an injustice. Fomenting war or endangering public safety for the sake of profit is an injustice. Politics is very, very much about justice, about the righteousness of the state's laws and policies and how they can be improved to be more just.

Politics is the last place where you find justice, especially when you demonize half the country to throw your views at people. The ratings speak for themselves. The more political the show gets, the more they turn people off. They lost 1/3 of their audience last year, and politics is the biggest critique of the show. What you are describing is not a superhero show. It's an MSNBC opinion.

It has a place, but not on a comic book show.


Lena has occasionally dipped into more of a gray zone, but she's still never gone full on villain. She can also come into conflict and disagree with Superhirl without actually turning into a full on villain.

I agree with this. Turning Lena full villain would be a huge mistake. She has gone into gray areas, and I'm fine with that. But her overall intentions have always been good.

And regarding the costume, I still say there is a compromise, which is to have the red skirt and the blue pants.

I get the practical reason for the change, and that's fine, but aesthetically, it doesn't look that great to me. And again, I didn't like the Superman version of that costume either. There's a reason the red shorts came back in the comics.
 
If comic books have been as political and as poorly written as Supergirl has been the last couple of years when they delve into politics, they would never have been so popular. We have decades of cartoons and tv shows and movies that have not been as horribly political as Supergirl, and that's a good thing.



Politics is the last place where you find justice, especially when you demonize half the country to throw your views at people. The ratings speak for themselves. The more political the show gets, the more they turn people off. They lost 1/3 of their audience last year, and politics is the biggest critique of the show. What you are describing is not a superhero show. It's an MSNBC opinion.

It has a place, but not on a comic book show.




I agree with this. Turning Lena full villain would be a huge mistake. She has gone into gray areas, and I'm fine with that. But her overall intentions have always been good.

And regarding the costume, I still say there is a compromise, which is to have the red skirt and the blue pants.

I get the practical reason for the change, and that's fine, but aesthetically, it doesn't look that great to me. And again, I didn't like the Superman version of that costume either. There's a reason the red shorts came back in the comics.

Every now and then I wonder why they had to change Batman from Adam Wests' costume, or Michael Keatons', or Val Kilmers'. No one seemed bothered by that apart from making memes about fighting evil directly in front of you.

I actually suspect if it hadn't been for the nonsense in this thread I wouldn't have even noticed, much less cared.
 
Bottom line: filming in Vancouver is different than filming in Los Angeles. :)

I'd probably want to dress warmer, too, if my job moved from southern California to Canada.
Yeah, but it's still July. It's always hot no matter where in the world you are.
 
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