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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

THE biggest characters/brands at DC/WB are Superman and Batman. Have you seen Batman on Gotham? Back in August of 2015, Ben McKenzie said:



Which means Batman is not meant to be a full-on character in the DC TV universe. Batman is a movie property, and up to this moment, the same applies to the other biggest DC brand--Superman. That's why Supergirl has used silhouettes, text messages and long distance CG figures, but no full on appearance. Right now, if its not Henry Cavill, its not happening, and have you--or anyone else--heard of Cavill appearing on a low-rated TV series, when he's part of the main DC adaptations on the big screen?



Exactly.


Which is why i call it the DC Film Universe... emphasis on the abbreviation
 
That is how things USED TO be.


Still is.

And it's not just the big guys anymore, Harley was meant to be on Arrow but they pulled her because of SS, they stopped doing SS episodes altogether(there was meant to be one each season) and they removed all the recurring SS characters from the show either by killing them off(Deadshot, Waller) or just not having them show up for other reasons, like self-seclusion(Katana) or keeping Deathstroke company in prison(Captain Boomerang).
 
Still is.

And it's not just the big guys anymore, Harley was meant to be on Arrow but they pulled her because of SS, they stopped doing SS episodes altogether(there was meant to be one each season) and they removed all the recurring SS characters from the show either by killing them off(Deadshot, Waller) or just not having them show up for other reasons, like self-seclusion(Katana) or keeping Deathstroke company in prison(Captain Boomerang).

And yet we already have two different live action Barry Allens and Bruce Waynes/Alfreds and that's apparently hunky dory...
 
Kids are convinced that every Santa they see is the same guy, no matter how many of them are drunk, still peeing against the side of a building during the course of the one same day.

"Daddy, does Santa have magic kidneys?"
 
And yet we already have two different live action Barry Allens and Bruce Waynes/Alfreds and that's apparently hunky dory...

There's a difference between showing young Bruce Wayne and showing Batman. They're apparently different enough that it doesn't count. And the TV Flash is apparently grandfathered in because his show was already in the works before the movie people settled on doing a Flash movie. If the movie folks had gotten their hands on the Flash first, we probably never would've gotten the TV show.
 
There's a difference between showing young Bruce Wayne and showing Batman. They're apparently different enough that it doesn't count. And the TV Flash is apparently grandfathered in because his show was already in the works before the movie people settled on doing a Flash movie. If the movie folks had gotten their hands on the Flash first, we probably never would've gotten the TV show.


or at the end of the day they're simply scared that people won't want to go a pay $X at the cinema to watch a move with a given character if they can watch for free at home.
 
I'm getting concerned we haven't gotten one yet but then none of the freshman series have. Still with all the hoopla surrounding the series last year at this time, what a difference a year makes.

I can't help but think that the execs must still be on the fence about renewing the show and therefore are waiting until the last possible moment to make up their minds.
 
My problem is not that they aren't being faithful to the comics. My problem is they're burying their lead character in the cast from somebody else's comics and cartoons!

Supergirl has often battled Superman's villains in the comics and cartoons (given they're in the same Superman family and often cross over with each other), so I just don't see why the TV series isn't permitted to do the same thing as well.

In fact, if anything it would seem kinda silly if a bunch of superpowered villains like this would only confine themselves to fighting one superhero in one city. It makes sense that there would be a lot of overlap there (although granted, if these villains were smart they would just avoid Metropolis and National City altogether!)

To me if there's an issue with the villains, it's just with how lame and cheesy most of them have been (the main exceptions I think being Master Jailer and Indigo), not with who's rogues they happen to belong to. I think we really need to see some next season that are stronger and scarier along the lines of a Zoom or Slade Wilson.

You just made my point for me. Have you seen Daredevil Season 2? You want to talk faithful to the comics?

Well I've only seen the first few episodes so far, but I'm not a Marvel guy and never read the comics so I wouldn't know if it were faithful to the comics or not. All I know is just that it's really good (so far anyway). :)
 
Supergirl has often battled Superman's villains in the comics and cartoons (given they're in the same Superman family and often cross over with each other), so I just don't see why the TV series isn't permitted to do the same thing as well.

Because doing that in the comics made her a secondary character to Superman. Doing that in a TV show she's supposed to be the star of makes her a secondary character to a character we never see. You may not find that a problem, but from a storytelling standpoint it's a huge problem. It reduces Supergirl to the status of the two hoboes in "Waiting for Godot" - and Supergirl's not as interesting as the two hoboes.

In fact, if anything it would seem kinda silly if a bunch of superpowered villains like this would only confine themselves to fighting one superhero in one city.

Have you read a comic book? Ever? Just because it's silly doesn't prevent it from happening all the freaking time.

It makes sense that there would be a lot of overlap there

By that same token the heroes should visit each other more often, which just leads right back to "why haven't we seen Superman?"

To me if there's an issue with the villains, it's just with how lame and cheesy most of them have been (the main exceptions I think being Master Jailer and Indigo),

I find it amazing that you think the Master Jailer isn't lame...

not with who's rogues they happen to belong to. I think we really need to see some next season that are stronger and scarier along the lines of a Zoom or Slade Wilson.

:wtf: Right. Here's the Slade Wilson episode. Kara finds out there's a guy with guns trying to kill people. She finds him, disarms him and throws his ass in jail. What happens in the other 33 minutes of the episode?



Well I've only seen the first few episodes so far, but I'm not a Marvel guy and never read the comics so I wouldn't know if it were faithful to the comics or not. All I know is just that it's really good (so far anyway). :)

It's faithfulness is why it's good, whether you realize it or not.
 
Supergirl has often battled Superman's villains in the comics and cartoons (given they're in the same Superman family and often cross over with each other), so I just don't see why the TV series isn't permitted to do the same thing as well.

I don't mind that. It's just odd that they keep establishing that they're new and unfamiliar, rather than established villains or phenomena that Superman has encountered before. This universe's Superman has never faced Livewire, Toyman, Bizarro, red kryptonite, etc. It kinda gives the impression that Superman's career must've been pretty sparse. I think the only instance we've had where a villain was established as having previously faced Superman was Reactron -- and he was someone Superman never defeated.
 
Because doing that in the comics made her a secondary character to Superman. Doing that in a TV show she's supposed to be the star of makes her a secondary character to a character we never see. You may not find that a problem, but from a storytelling standpoint it's a huge problem. It reduces Supergirl to the status of the two hoboes in "Waiting for Godot" - and Supergirl's not as interesting as the two hoboes.

True; she cannot have her own identity when most of her villains remind the audience of the leading character they are associated with--Superman.
 
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