Spoilers Suicide Squad - Grading & Discussion
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There's zero confirmation that this will happen. I think Affleck will want to do his own thing, not just make a predictable franchise entry. And TBH I don't think we'll see Joker in Suicide Squad 2 either, because they can't keep using him if he isn't connected to the squad or the villain. So, although I have positive feelings towards Leto's Joker, I think this may be the last we see of him.
I haven't seen the Raid, so would Arkham Asylum (the video game): The Movie be a good analogy too? I would love to see that.
I think a Leto Joker vs Batfleck story is inevitable as long as the DCEU continues and doesn't recast. There's no way they aren't going to put them together at some when both roles are already cast.
EDIT: I'm don't mean an exact adaptation of the game, I just meant a similar story with Batman in Arkham with all of the different villains.
I think a Leto Joker vs Batfleck story is inevitable as long as the DCEU continues and doesn't recast. There's no way they aren't going to put them together at some when both roles are already cast.
EDIT: I'm don't mean an exact adaptation of the game, I just meant a similar story with Batman in Arkham with all of the different villains.
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Maybe I’m just getting old, but it suggests to me that those people really need to see more films because there was nothing in SS I hadn’t seen before (and done better).
Off hours TV now mostly reruns reality shows and infomercials where they used to rerun old movies to teach the couch potatoes about the cool crap our parents and grand parents liked when they were hip.
It's a brave new world.
It's a brave new world.
Finally saw this (quite belatedly by my standards) and, as with BvS, found myself enjoying it while simultaneously recognising a lot of the criticism laid at it.
The editing and structure is quire shoddy at times. We get 2 different intros for both Deadshot and Harley, while other characters are pushed onstage with a quick mention of who they are.
Waller has 2 almost identical and successive scenes outlining her plan, once in a restaurant, the next in a briefing room. These could and should have been merged.
The villain is easily the worst, most forgettable and most pointless comic adaptation baddie yet. She and her CGI brother make Chris Eccleston's Thor 2 nonentity seem like Ledger's Joker. The scene where she was dancing/ writhing looked risible and her voice sounded like a mix of someone impersonating Margaret Thatcher and Tim Curry in the Rocky Horror Show.
The recruiting of characters including a drunk Aussie with a boomerang and a psychotic woman with a baseball bat to fight off super powered villains made no sense. Enchantress's zombies looked terrible and could on the one hand withstand machine gun fire, then be done for by Harley's bat.
The classic rock soundtrack, while great (it was like listening to my own iPod at times) was a little too on the nose and not as offbeat and unpredictable as GOTG or a Tarantino soundtrack.
And yet.
Smith was great fun, if a little too likeable (but I guess you don't cast Big Willie to be hateful). Robbie was superb. Leto was a very worthy new take on the Joker. Ledger remains top dog for me but this Mr J, part romantic, part abusive lover, part gangster, all psycho, was very watchable. I thought he had enough screen time for this film but would like to see him face off Affleck again.
Viola Davis and Joel Kinnaman were good VFM and even Jai Courtney wasn't too bad. I didn't find the film at all dour but felt that its black humour was perfectly-pitched. It borrowed BvS' palate but all involved seemed to be having more fun.
Not sure what rank I give it. Probably a B of some sort.
The editing and structure is quire shoddy at times. We get 2 different intros for both Deadshot and Harley, while other characters are pushed onstage with a quick mention of who they are.
Waller has 2 almost identical and successive scenes outlining her plan, once in a restaurant, the next in a briefing room. These could and should have been merged.
The villain is easily the worst, most forgettable and most pointless comic adaptation baddie yet. She and her CGI brother make Chris Eccleston's Thor 2 nonentity seem like Ledger's Joker. The scene where she was dancing/ writhing looked risible and her voice sounded like a mix of someone impersonating Margaret Thatcher and Tim Curry in the Rocky Horror Show.
The recruiting of characters including a drunk Aussie with a boomerang and a psychotic woman with a baseball bat to fight off super powered villains made no sense. Enchantress's zombies looked terrible and could on the one hand withstand machine gun fire, then be done for by Harley's bat.
The classic rock soundtrack, while great (it was like listening to my own iPod at times) was a little too on the nose and not as offbeat and unpredictable as GOTG or a Tarantino soundtrack.
And yet.
Smith was great fun, if a little too likeable (but I guess you don't cast Big Willie to be hateful). Robbie was superb. Leto was a very worthy new take on the Joker. Ledger remains top dog for me but this Mr J, part romantic, part abusive lover, part gangster, all psycho, was very watchable. I thought he had enough screen time for this film but would like to see him face off Affleck again.
Viola Davis and Joel Kinnaman were good VFM and even Jai Courtney wasn't too bad. I didn't find the film at all dour but felt that its black humour was perfectly-pitched. It borrowed BvS' palate but all involved seemed to be having more fun.
Not sure what rank I give it. Probably a B of some sort.
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Fair even-handed review.
I think Captain Boomerang was in there because Waller must have a sense of humor. She probably figured he'd be the one who'd get his head knocked off to prove the point.
I think Captain Boomerang was in there because Waller must have a sense of humor. She probably figured he'd be the one who'd get his head knocked off to prove the point.
No it was apparently because of violence and Katana's mask.
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I kinda wished that Boomerang didn't return after they were told they could leave. I think that would have been better keeping with the character and you could have had a scene afterwards of the Flash bringing him back to jail, again.
He's Boomerang, he couldn't help but return.
Boom-tish-erang.
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