Stuff that make you wonder but not own thread worthy

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by JesterFace, Aug 27, 2022.

  1. Ragitsu

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    Why is there a gift shop of all facilities aboard the -D?

    I can think of two reasons.

    1. Oversized Replicators.
    2. Replicators sporting UIs equipped with design programs that allow for finer control over the finished product.
     
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  2. Orphalesion

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    ....huh?

    You have watched TNG, right? We often see civilians and children in every season and up to Generations. It's possible to make an argument that the Ent E didn't have families on board (particularly because the writers of First Contact stated that in their mind there weren't any children on board during the events of the movie) but the Ent D had families and kids on board the entire time.
    So I'm not sure how that question is even possible.

    As to why they didn't do it;
    1) They felt including a separation sequence each time they needed it was wasting time and potentially killing the mood.
    2) They felt that the model of the ship didn't look good without the saucer.
     
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  3. at Quark's

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    Yes, but the last time I watched the series in full is a long, long time ago. I remember seeing families and civilians in each season indeed, but have the feeling a much greater point of civilians being aboard was made of it in the early seasons. Perhaps my memories have been skewed.

    Even so, I can accept these explanations, but only as production reasons. We'd need still an in-universe explanation as to why they'd only on a few occasions ever made use of the separation and battle bridge if so many civilians were aboard. Why expose them to the same dangers as the crew in combat situations? They did so at Encounter at farpoint but in later seasons not even when encountering the Borg in combat.
     
  4. Orphalesion

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    True, the family element was de-emphasized after Season 1. In Season one they did get out of their way to talk about civilians and "family decks" during times of crisis.But the families weren't removed after season 1, just de-emphasized.
    Indeed it seems like in later season the Enterprise was even used for civilian transport...I mean where else would those random miners come from that hit on Famke Janssen's character in Ten Forward come from?
    Yes, it is just an out-of-universe explanation. But it's sadly one of those things were there's no satisfying in-universe explanation.
     
  5. Mojochi

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    Going back to this point. This is why I never understood what the heck was so panic inducing about Amanda Rogers having conjured up 3 puppies. "Oh no! You can't be here!" What, 3 puppies? O'Brien has a damn tarantula on board. Just come up with a cover story about some new puppies. I'm sure no one gives a single crap about a few puppies around. That whole scene was just kind of clumsily shoved in there to out her powers
     
  6. Ragitsu

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    To be fair, a spider - even that mammoth specimen - creates much less mess/requires far less maintenance.
     
  7. Orphalesion

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    In the Child Troi's unholy starchild spawn played with a whole litter of puppies at daycare, nobody seemed concerned about that.
     
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  8. Ragitsu

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  9. Farscape One

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    It's not the fact there are new puppies there being the problem. She would have to explain how they got there, particularly since she just got on board and had no animals with her to begin with.
     
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  10. Ragitsu

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    The ship cleans itself, yes, on that fact we are all in agreement. Ah...but who ensures that the ship continues to clean itself?

    That's right: starship engineers are - in effect - twenty-fourth century janitors.
     
  11. somebuddyX

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    What actually happened to all those Husnocks and what happened to all their planets and tech or whatever? Did they just blip out of existence or do a snap like in "Infinity War"? Were there people they subjugated that were like "thanks Kev, we're free." Did all their ships get blowed up? What about space stations and things like power stations on planets, things that need people to operate? Or did Kevin blow up all their planets too?
     
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  12. at Quark's

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    ^ He was determined to not kill, but in a flash of anger ended up killing the entire species, all Husnocks, everywhere. With that level of power, I wonder if he couldn't have stopped the invasion with other means (without raising too many eyebrows by those around him about what exactly happened).
     
  13. Oddish

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    Had he been aware of the pending attack, I expect he could have stopped them in any number of unpleasant but non-lethal ways.
     
  14. Farscape One

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    He mentioned that he tried non violent ways like how he was trying to trick the Enterprise, but it just made the Husnock angrier.
     
  15. Oddish

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    Why not just make all their weapons disappear? What are they going to do to his people then? Tickle them to death?
     
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  16. somebuddyX

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    So I could have that dream a year or so ago where I was working in it with Wesley, who was my boss.
     
  17. at Quark's

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    While he is extremely powerful he isn't omnipotent. He wasn't able to fool them sufficiently. Presumably he was unable to bring his wife back, or else he'd probably done that. So perhaps he could destroy them, but not disarm them without harming them.
     
  18. Ragitsu

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    What's worse: being killed or being retroactively written out of existence?
     
  19. Orphalesion

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    Depends on your philosophy, I suppose. Since I believe in an existence beyond death being retroactively written out of existante would be infinitely worse.
    Though I could see it being worse even if you don't belive in an afterlive; if you and your whole civilization get killed artefacts and traced would likely still remain that one day can be recovered by archaeologists and so they'd continue to be part of Galactic civilization/consciousness.
    Being written out of existante on the other hand would negate that forever.
     
  20. at Quark's

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    I wanted to say that retroactively being written out of existence can only happen out-of-universe, so that in-universe that isn't really a threat, but that's not true, given that the Krenim deleted entire civilizations from the timeline. So I'd probably prefer being killed.