Strange New Worlds Season 2 Trailer

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by gvn2fly, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. Sci

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    It is occasionally slightly meta, such as when Boimler says that he refers to the era of Kirk and Spock as "the TOS era - TOS for 'Those Old Scientists.'" But it's not a parody. A parody is where the meta element is saying to the audience, "The original program is dumb/bad because X." Lower Decks never says that to its audience. What Lower Decks's meta elements (such as referring to the 2250s and 2260s as the TOS era) says to the audience is, "Dang, Star Trek is awesome, isn't it?"

    I mean, it sounds to me like you just don't think a sitcom is appropriate for the Star Trek Universe. Which is a legitimate opinion! I don't agree with it, but it's a legitimate stance to take. But that doesn't make Lower Decks a mockery rather than a loving tribute.

    In what way? None of the characters in the Kurtzman shows are superheroes.

    I hate to tell you this, but production on Star Trek: Discovery was already underway before The Mummy was released. And Paramount was always going to want to make more ST shows if DIS was successful.

    Well, it is certainly true that there is a financial incentive to produce television programs for streaming. But that was true when Star Trek was being produced for syndication and network television, too.

    Lower Decks does exactly that.
     
  2. Nerys Myk

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    I've been watching Star Trek since 1966. Been with it through thick and thin. The whole time with my eyes open. So I'll pass on that "advice".
     
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    Another way to put it:

    Lower Decks is no more a mockery of Star Trek than is The Orville's first season. Both were sitcoms clearly inspired by, and paying loving tribute to, Star Trek.
     
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    Actually, I think it's doing something that Star Trek has sorely lacked for a long time: Remembering that contemporary pop culture can and should exist. It's refreshing to see characters referencing their own cultural history rather than constantly referring back to centuries old pop culture.



    Star Trek is the original shared cinematic universe. Kurtzman didn't create one, he expanded on the one that already had existed for decades.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    That was Ransom, not to nitpick, but yes it was a hilarious bit of meta humor that acknowledged these are completely different eras. Which Voyager did the same damn thing, just not as funny.
     
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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Star Trek from... Star Trek???
    It was Ransom. Turn in your fan card.
     
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  7. Aragorn

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    Mention Trekmovie gatekeepers, cause their ears to burn, and now they're here.
     
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  8. Nenya

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    No. 1966-2005 from 2009 to present. Totally different tones.
     
  9. Nenya

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    They are called gatekeepers but people here gatekeep for paramount.
     
  10. KirkusOveractus

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    That isn't what gatekeeping is.
     
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    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    The Star Trek I loved best could shift tone from episode to episode. Sometimes even within an episode. Star Trek should never be one thing
     
  12. Tiberius Jim

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    DS9 had a significantly different tone than TOS. Different than TNG, even. That doesn't mean it wasn't Trek, just different Trek.
     
  13. Nenya

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    Awful convenient.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    TOS had totally different tones all the time. It was a variety platform.

    People don't have to like it all. It's still Star Trek.
    Edit: Ninja'd
     
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    But they all shared the same universe.
     
  16. fireproof78

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    Don't feel like this universe is any different.

    Just a different dramatic approach. It's like history.
     
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    There is probably more to it. They are probably not themselves
     
  18. Nenya

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    Whedon trek.
     
  19. KirkusOveractus

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    Not convenient, but truth in that you're incorrect. Gatekeeping in this instance is when someone dictates what they feel is or is not Star Trek, talk standoffish to people as if they don't have a right to like Star Trek, in general have a close-mindedness about what it is and that no one else is allowed to have an opinion on it or like it because it's theirs.
     
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    I don't know what that means.

    I just take Trek as it comes. If I don't like it (TNG, VOY, ENT) I ignore it. If I do, I work with it.

    That's me. I don't feel the need to hate all of it just because one part doesn't "feel like Trek." I hate horror but TOS had a lot more in it than I remembered so I accept horror in my Trek (begrudgingly).
     
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