Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by NewHeavensNewEarth, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Harpsichord

    Harpsichord Commander Red Shirt

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    A little background on the costume creation:

    Also the costume designer seems to think the show takes place in 2256?
     
  2. The Wormhole

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    That's funny considering the costume designer is the same person who previously stated 2259 before the show started.
     
  3. Donald G

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    *Sigh*
    "The Vulcan Hello" and "The Battle of the Binary Stars" were explicitly set in May 2256.
    "Conscience is for Kings" was six months after that.
    DISCO season 1 extended well into 2257 due to a 9-10 month time jump returning from the Mirror Universe.
    DISCO season 2 probably bridged 2257&58.
    By that reckoning, SNW should be ca. 2259 (and 2258 at the earliest).
     
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  4. Jedi Marso

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    Here's a thought to contemplate on the opening episode:

    Was Spock's interaction with T'Pring some kind of dream or perhaps a VR fantasy?

    Because there is no other way to explain how he goes from 'Vulcan' to the Enterprise in the 6 hours between Pike's conversation with April and the ship getting underway.

    Some sort of dream sequence or holodeck style fantasy would also, at least, preserve canon regarding the two.
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    Speed and need of the plot. Don't overthink it.
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Still trying to figure out the canon status of T'Pring.
     
  7. Nerys Myk

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    Huh? She's in "Amok Time" and now "Strange New Worlds". What's the issue?
     
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  8. Jedi Marso

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    The fact that in Amok Time, Spock was staring at a picture of her as a child and apparently hadn't seen her since then.
     
  9. Nerys Myk

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    Never really said.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Is that stated or assumed.?
     
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  11. Nerys Myk

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    Pretty much this
    Could be he was flipping through his photo album and that was the picture he was on when the door bell rang.
     
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  12. Turtletrekker

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    This is not a fact, it is assumption. It is never stated as such in the episode.
     
  13. Skywalker

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    If something was never explicitly stated in dialogue, it never happened.
     
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    As others pointed out and I've shared a couple of times, at no point does he say they haven't seen each other since they were children only that they was a ceremony when they were kids and now there is a ceremony that completes the marriage. There's every possibility they interacted with each other regularly over the course of years. That's the wiggle room for creating a backstory. I personally like it. I want to know what led a person to take such drastic action (however justified by logic). Being a bitch who doesn't want to have sex with him is not character motivation. This new business is much more interesting.
     
  15. Mr. Nova

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    I've sometimes idly fantasized that they could go back and re-create TOS using all new cast/crew/set/effects, etc. but re-tell all the old stories. But even if it were possible, when you follow those thoughts to their logical conclusion there are an infinite number of things that would go wrong and cause the final product to be a n unmitigated disaster

    Edited to note that the original poster on this subject was referring to Star Wars. I didn't notice at first so my post is about Trek.
     
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  16. Mr. Nova

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    Afterwards, Wil Wheaton could do a Ready Room interview with the ship's computer. :cool:
     
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  17. Jedi Marso

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    T'Pring came off as bitchy in TOS, but that was just her being coldly logical about her situation. It was interesting how they flipped the script on this in Enterprise, and T'Pol wound up marrying someone she didn't want to. It wasn't about T'Pring 'not wanting to have sex' with Spock, it was about her 'not wanting to be married' to Spock. She didn't want an absentee husband, and perhaps not one with human blood.

    Technically speaking, I agree that nothing was definitively stated in TOS to confirm Spock and T'Pring hadn't seen one another since childhood. But if not, why meditate over a childhood picture of her?

    Only one person addressed the real issue in my 'OP within the thread' which was to ask if the episode with T'Pring in the first episode happened anywhere other than Spock's skull, because given the timeframe of Pike's conversation with April and the launch of Enterprise, 6 hours is not long enough to travel between Earth and Vulcan.
     
  18. Noname Given

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    ORLY?:confused:

    Not according to TOS S3 "That Which Survives":
    http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/69.htm
    If the 1701 can cross 990.7 light years in 11.37 hours at Warp 8; since Vulcan is stated to be orbiting the star 40 Eridani and that star is only 16.5 light years from Earth; even if Spock jumped on a ship that was traveling a lot less than Warp 8, he could still travel to Earth in less than 6 hours - and that's based directly on TOS 'on the screen' canon. :beer: :)
     
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  19. Jedi Marso

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    Hmm. I'll see you that and raise you Mr. Scott at the end of TMP, on the newly refit Enterprise: "We can have ye back on Vulcan in four days, Mr. Spock..."

    I know, I know. Speed of plot and all that rot. Nobody seems to like my canon-preserving idea that Spock and T'Pring weren't actually about to get it on when duty called, and it didn't appear either was going through ponn far... :D
     
  20. The Wormhole

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    Eh? I thought she didn't want a famous husband. From Amok Time:
    The caption on the screen says they were on Vulcan, specifically the region of Vulcan called Raal. I thought we didn't dispute that which is stated definitively on screen?