News Strange New Worlds casting/new characters
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Star Trek has been overwriting its continuity since 1966. It isn't a mark of any kind of remake or reboot; it's a mark of persistent fiction. SNW has already affected continuity and will undoubtedly continue to do so -- as will the inevitable TOS reincarnation. Which is exactly what we're talking about. To 'bring something back postpositively' is not at all the same as remaking something. The approaches to production, financial scope, and creative intent are all entirely different.
As far as "backing" the only required is a little common sense and a barely informed opinion.
No show in history has ever gone into production without some kind of trapdoor in place for the unexpected departure of the lead. Fortunately for SNW, said trapdoor is probably the most obvious in TV history. As such, it is all but guaranteed that Kurtzman has a list of names stashed in a drawer. Rest assured at least one (probably multiple) person at CBS knows of this list and are keenly aware of its value and have most certainly begun brainstorming on how to best put said list to use. See: "contingencies in the pipeline."
As far as "backing" the only required is a little common sense and a barely informed opinion.
No show in history has ever gone into production without some kind of trapdoor in place for the unexpected departure of the lead. Fortunately for SNW, said trapdoor is probably the most obvious in TV history. As such, it is all but guaranteed that Kurtzman has a list of names stashed in a drawer. Rest assured at least one (probably multiple) person at CBS knows of this list and are keenly aware of its value and have most certainly begun brainstorming on how to best put said list to use. See: "contingencies in the pipeline."
Oh, so it's a potato then?
I assume that you refer to shows like the new Lost In Space or nuBSG as remakes? I never would. There needs to be a story to be retold, such as one of the seemingly endless versions of Pride and Prejudice or A Star Is Born.
There is no story to TOS. It's a collection of stories.
Just reusing the premise or characters is something else. If I worried about it I'd call it a reboot or that stupid marketing neologism, "reimaging."
So, using your version of the word - yes, they'll "remake" TOS.
Or potato it.
Oh, Kirk will show up as a character in SNW well before its end. They all will.
Fuck, STD couldn't keep themselves away from Harry Goddamn Mudd for more than a few weeks, and when they got in real trouble they pulled in Spock and Pike.
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I don't agree with your definition of "remake," nor do I have any interest in quibbling over it.
I don't mind the idea of the modern SNW aesthetic replacing the TOS look, but I don't love the idea of a new series on the Enterprise during TOS. I'd prefer that they skip a few years. There's a huge gap just after TMP waiting to be filled, and a series in that time would be an opportunity to revamp the ship, sets, and uniforms, giving the show its own identity separate from SNW.
Unless they plan on retreading the themes the films already did each and every time, the timeframe is arbitrary.
Shoot, they might not even retitle the show. In a few years when Mount and Romijn leave the show, just bring in Kirk and keep going. That's how it works on real ships. You just have to have Una get promoted to Captain of another ship before Pike leaves, to explain why she doesn't get the Enterprise.
It would be foolish and poor business practice.
Hate to throw this out there, while everyone gets too far ahead, but they could just as well simply re-reboot the TOS crew on the Big Screen after the Kelvin Films are done, instead. Assuming the 2023 Film is the fourth one and also assuming it's the last of the batch with Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. It might not be.
There's too much here we don't know.
Someone said Kirk and Spock are the Big Bucks, and they're right. They are the Big Bucks. That's why they'll continue to be on the Big Screen until they can't. And that's why I said in my earlier post they could do "New TOS" on TV instead of would. It all depends on what's going on with the films.
We don't know how much of an audience Strange New Worlds will get, or if that audience will be any different from Discovery or Picard. Probably not. And there's a huge difference between going to a movie for two hours and watching a show every week for 10 weeks (or binging a 10-episode season in eight hours). TV and Movies are just two different mediums. A television series is committed viewing, a movie isn't. A movie is in-and-out.
And that's before we get to talking about a hypothetical Kirk Series.
The Average Joe might want to watch Kirk and Spock for two hours on the Big Screen, doesn't mean they want to watch them every week or go on a binge watching them. And on a lower budget, what they see on a Streaming Series isn't going to be as grand as what they'd see in a Feature Film. So, once again, the audience level would end up not being too different from the other Paramout+ Trek series.
There's too much here we don't know.
Someone said Kirk and Spock are the Big Bucks, and they're right. They are the Big Bucks. That's why they'll continue to be on the Big Screen until they can't. And that's why I said in my earlier post they could do "New TOS" on TV instead of would. It all depends on what's going on with the films.
We don't know how much of an audience Strange New Worlds will get, or if that audience will be any different from Discovery or Picard. Probably not. And there's a huge difference between going to a movie for two hours and watching a show every week for 10 weeks (or binging a 10-episode season in eight hours). TV and Movies are just two different mediums. A television series is committed viewing, a movie isn't. A movie is in-and-out.
And that's before we get to talking about a hypothetical Kirk Series.
The Average Joe might want to watch Kirk and Spock for two hours on the Big Screen, doesn't mean they want to watch them every week or go on a binge watching them. And on a lower budget, what they see on a Streaming Series isn't going to be as grand as what they'd see in a Feature Film. So, once again, the audience level would end up not being too different from the other Paramout+ Trek series.
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It's been long enough since Discovery premiered that I think they might do the first episode on TV thing again. And assuming the tone of the show is sufficiently different/old school they might actually be able to attract some fans back.
They're kinda painting themselves into a corner if SNW starts in 2260, since Kirk's 5YM is 2265-2270 (although of course that can be retconned away as easily as the angle of the classic Enterprise's nacelle pylons were), but even then they can have a season take place over a week or a couple of months instead of the Berman-era season = year formula.
Doesn't matter. Point's the same. They're going to do new TV stories with Kirk and Spock that will match the post-2000 Trek shows, and in those regards will not match TOS.
Potato.
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Hi Captain Spock,
You might not remember us, but we served with you long ago on the Enterprise when Captain Pike was in command. We heard rumors that you found our ancestor Khan Noonien Singh some years ago and imprisoned him on some barren planet. We want to warn you that he should not be left unsupervised. Stories of his resourceful vengefulness still haunt our family even after centuries. Please keep him regularly monitored by Starfleet law enforcement so that he doesn't, we don't know, brainwash hapless victims with mind controlling worms or steal top secret Federation terraforming technology, or whatever.
Manu and La'an Noonien Singh.
Spock:
(deletes subspace message)
I don't know about that, Goldsman has more direct creative control over SNW than he did on Discovery. I'm taking a wait an see attitude.
Considering, as was mentioned above, there was a descendant of Khan serving on the Enterprise a mere 5 years before 'Space Seed' happened (and serving with both Spock and Uhura no less) and yet this was never brought up when they found the Botany Bay, makes me think that continuity with TOS isn't going to be SNW's strong point. But we'll see.
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