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Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Rate the Episode

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    Votes: 147 45.9%
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I might have to rewatch but didn't Robert April say that the Federation High Court (I assume another name for the Federation Supreme Court) had to be convinced not to punish Pike for the non-interference directive violations? Why would they be involved? Wouldn't jurisdiction fall under a Starfleet/military court tribunal or court martial?
I don't know. The Prime Directive is a UFP thing, I think, not a Starfleet directive?

For me this is what TNG should have been in 1987.
That's ok. It became that in 1988.

Dude,do you even Star Trek? "Whack over the head" is a feature, not a bug.
True, though Trek has usually made those points through alegories rather than direct references.
 
Dude,do you even Star Trek? "Whack over the head" is a feature, not a bug. ;)
Who says it's the same Kyle?
Actually TOS's use of more subtle allegories was deliberately designed to evade network censors. Thus Trek's history of talking about issues sideways by using aliens and not spelling it out.

Two guys on the Enterprise serving as transporter chiefs seems a stretch...!

Trek has been "cringe political" since at bare minimum 1966. If you're complaining now then you must be like Mr. Short Term Memory from SNL.

No, it's told didactic stories - but not directly mired itself in current events.

Sometimes, instead of a parable, you just need a big stick.

Wasn't that the opposite of what was being argued in the episode?
 
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Of course it's the same Kyle. Kyle was never more than a name. It's like saying Shakespeare's plays were written by some other guy named Shakespeare, not Shakespeare.

Okay, it's not really like that.

Definitely, heavy-handed social commentary is a Trek feature and not a bug. The show's allegory - or symbolism, or whatever - was rarely subtle. And now, there's no reason to hide behind "we're cleverly evading the censor."
 
Yeah...no.Adding a female version of Dr. McCoy <> TNG becoming TOS - not by a LONG SHOT.
Hey, at least Pulaski had a personality.

My point is that TNG became great trek by the second season.

And MASH was all about about the Korean conflict while directly commenting on Vietnam.

It's not as subtle as Trek like to think that it is sometimes.
I didn't say Trek was subtle. I said it usually did its thing through alegories, not direct references. I'm just highlighting a difference with SNW's Jan6 shots.

I'm going to play my "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" card again.
It was still an allegory.
 
Some of the special effects are a bit OTT - the warp effect felt like every room had a "discotheque" set of windows
The scene where Spock goes to visit Pike in his quarters made me laugh a bit because PIke was just staring directly out into that light show as Spock comes in. I was half expecting him to turn around bleary-eyed and say "welcome in.. uh.. Una?" :lol:
 
Wasn't that the opposite of what was being argued in the episode?
Nope. Pike even said it himself. The lesson was pulled directly from "The Day The Earth Stood Still," lampshaded earlier in the episode.

These people were fighting amongst each other, and now had a weapon of great power that could not only threaten their own world, but all of the worlds around them, and Pike wasn't going to stand by while they threatened the other planets with their aggression. In short, they still had a choice to make, whether or not they wanted to choose to move forward and find "more profitable enterprises," or whether they wanted to continue to act irresponsibly and face destruction, e.g., Pike's "big stick."
 
Trellium-D
Ah, thought you were still referring to t’pring.
Reminds me of a test that a college Professor once gave in my 'English Comprehension' course on the first day.
His instructions before hand were to read the first page and then proceed.
There were 15 pages to the exam. (about 120 questions)

At the top of the first page it said...

Read all the questions.
Then answer to the best of your ability.
Then sign at the bottom of the last page, turn in the exam papers and leave.


Myself and two other students were done within the first five minutes...
Everyone else stared at us as we turned in the test and left.

The kicker was Question #120, it read ...

"After reading all the questions, don't answer any, sign your name below and you can leave."
Ah, I had something similar happening at my first programming exam!
Basically we had to implement a relatively complex program starting from some preexisting code, not beyond what we were taught but quite time consuming. The professor gave the code and told us to read everything careful. Well, I did and found that at the end of the code we had already pretty much all we needed as functions ready to be called, took only five minutes or so to call them and I was the only one to pass with full marks.

Might even be a new thing they have started to embrace once they decided mind melds were also okay to do
good point: how can a tradition involve an illegal practice?

That makes for a good story. But as a teaching lesson it's kind of a bad one, the big lesson in there is "blind obedience", not critical thinking.
No, it teaches paying attention to instructions.
 
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