Still No DSC Casting Announcement for New Captain?

[Vger23]

Saru went rogue on Pahvo and Burnham committed mutiny. Neither of them are fit to command.

Therefore, command of the Discovery should fall to its second officer, Acting Captain Airiam. Her name will be legend.

Kirk went rogue, stole a Federation Starship, sabotaged another, violated restricted airspace, engaged and stole a vessel from a hostile major superpower and destroyed his stolen starship.

Picard went rogue twice, first violating orders to bring his ship from an assignment in the neutral zone into battle with an enemy his government and superiors felt he might be compromised by, and later violating orders from an admiral and the Federation Council because he wanted to save white people.

Both were fit for command, because positive ultimate outcomes.



I actually think it's written into Starfleet regs somewhere.

So no worries!

 

[Tuvix5675]

It's going to be Kirk. No casting needed if they get Pine or Shatner.

If they are sticking to prime canon, Kirk should be serving on the U.S.S. Farragut as an ensign (I think), so unlikely he could be Discovery's captain.

 

[Tuskin38]

If they are sticking to prime canon, Kirk should be serving on the U.S.S. Farragut as an ensign (I think), so unlikely he could be Discovery's captain.

The Farragut disaster should be happening in the year Season 2 takes place in as well.

 

[Tuvix5675]

The Farragut disaster should be happening in the year Season 2 takes place in as well.

Which disaster are you referring to?

 

[Kibbin]

Which disaster are you referring to?

The one where Kirk made a name for himself. Monster killed the captain and while Kirk blamed himself he was marked as doing an excellent job. Can't remember the name of the episode sorry.

 

[DaveyNY]

The one where Kirk made a name for himself. Monster killed the captain and while Kirk blamed himself he was marked as doing an excellent job. Can't remember the name of the episode sorry.

"OBSESSION"
(Season 2, Episode-13)

 

[Kibbin]

Now to quickly just edit my post to add that in there and claim all the credit and glory

 

[fireproof78]

Kirk went rogue, stole a Federation Starship, sabotaged another, violated restricted airspace, engaged and stole a vessel from a hostile major superpower and destroyed his stolen starship.

As well as killed 11 foreign nationals and involved a member planet in aiding and abetting them in their crimes.

 

[Kibbin]

As well as killed 11 foreign nationals and involved a member planet in aiding and abetting them in their crimes.

I think you'll find he was well and truly punished for those acts. He got busted all the way back down to uh captain and was given an identical starship to command.
Besides he was let off 'cos he saved the Earth and she was pretty much let off for saving the Earth. No promotions all round.

 

[DaveyNY]

Don't forget breaking out of a Foreign Prison he was legally confined to.

 

[fireproof78]

I think you'll find he was well and truly punished for those acts. He got busted all the way back down to uh captain and was given an identical starship to command.
Besides he was let off 'cos he saved the Earth and she was pretty much let off for saving the Earth. No promotions all round.

Yes, he clearly learned his lesson.

 

[Kibbin]

Don't forget breaking out of a Foreign Prison he was legally confined to.

For a crime he didn't commit. Both men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Alpha Quadrant underground. Today, still wanted by the government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire The Enterprise."

 

[Kibbin]

Yes, he clearly learned his lesson.

Well maybe Burnham should have saved a prominent ambassadors son in the process instead of releasing a mirror universe emperor into open space and seating a known torturer and murderer in command of the Klingon Empire. Meanwhile Jim brought back some fish in a fancy new tank and a sincere sounding apology letter instead of the news that they higher ups all got played by an evil, alien eating dude playing at captain.
Remember always try and make your boss look good.

 

[Vger23]

Yes, he clearly learned his lesson.

They fixed his wagon good!!

 

[fireproof78]

Well maybe Burnham should have saved a prominent ambassadors son in the process instead of releasing a mirror universe emperor into open space and seating a known torturer and murderer in command of the Klingon Empire. Meanwhile Jim brought back some fish in a fancy new tank and a sincere sounding apology letter instead of the news that they higher ups all got played by an evil, alien eating dude playing at captain.
Remember always try and make your boss look good.

Ah, nepotism.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I haven't read the novels so I've no idea if this marries with appearances by him up to this point.

Lorca Prime appears in one DSC novel. It's called Drastic Measures. It's about the story of Kodos the Executioner and the aftermath of that bloody massacre.

(Lorca is a LCDR at the time, in charge of a monitoring outpost on Tarsus IV. He and CDR Georgiou are too late to stop Kodos' massacre but they team up to find him and help in the investigation and cleanup.)

Spoiler: THIS IS A SPOILER FOR THE ENDING, I REALLY MEAN IT

At the very end of the novel, like a post-credits thing, it's revealed that present-day ReguLorca is being held prisoner. Somewhere. Probably in the mirror universe.

 

[jaime]

Well maybe Burnham should have saved a prominent ambassadors son in the process instead of releasing a mirror universe emperor into open space and seating a known torturer and murderer in command of the Klingon Empire. Meanwhile Jim brought back some fish in a fancy new tank and a sincere sounding apology letter instead of the news that they higher ups all got played by an evil, alien eating dude playing at captain.
Remember always try and make your boss look good.

She technically did the first. Except it was a daughter by adoption. Herself.

 

[Timo]

Kirk in S2 of DSC probably is the following things:

- about 24 ("The Deadly Years" et al.)
- a Lieutenant ("Obsession", "A Private Little War")
- on the Farragut ("Obsession")
- a war hero ("Whom Gods Destroy"), presumably from Burnham's war
- known for it to Klingons ("Errand of Mercy"), probably
- friends with Mitchell but not with Spock ("Where No Man")
- a redshirt in Security or goldshirt in Tactical, holding "phaser stations" for his ship's landing parties ("Obsession")
- utterly unfamiliar with the Sarek family ("Journey to Babel") and most things Vulcan (TOS)

Any meeting with the DSC lot ought to preserve most of that. Especially the ignorance bits.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Kibbin]

Kirk in S2 of DSC probably is the following things:

- about 24 ("The Deadly Years" et al.)
- a Lieutenant ("Obsession", "A Private Little War")
- on the Farragut ("Obsession")
- a war hero ("Whom Gods Destroy"), presumably from Burnham's war
- known for it to Klingons ("Errand of Mercy"), probably
- friends with Mitchell but not with Spock ("Where No Man")
- a redshirt in Security or goldshirt in Tactical, holding "phaser stations" for his ship's landing parties ("Obsession")
- utterly unfamiliar with the Sarek family ("Journey to Babel") and most things Vulcan (TOS)

Any meeting with the DSC lot ought to preserve most of that. Especially the ignorance bits.

Timo Saloniemi

I'd rather we didn't see hyde nor hair of him really. Especially as you say he is nothing more than an up and coming officer at this point and hardly really big news to most.

 

[Timo]

It really is much more fun to meet a "significant nobody" like Harry Mudd, a guy who justifiably gets around but hardly affects lives other than his own (even when seemingly killing people!).

But it would also be fun to meet the Kirk of the day. I mean, not Jimmy T, but the guy or gal who currently is the dashing young starship CO known to all. And it could well be Pike, but it would also be amusing for it to be an all-new character whose name will never again pop up in Star Trek. Gloria transit astrali, or whatnot.

Timo Saloniemi