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STC: To Boldly Indiegogo

While the extra money is nice to have there is also the fact that advancing technology has also allowed amateur efforts to achieve more polished results. That tech has allowed fan efforts to move beyond the limitations and expenses of physical resources.
 
I think Continues or Phase II should do a TOS series finale where Enterprise pulls into Spacedock, Spock returns to Vulcan, McCoy retires and Kirk gets promoted, then at least it's done.

Then if they're able to, go back and make more episodes set in between.

I'm afraid my trademark optimism has waned considerably.
 
Here's the thing. We don't really know whether crowdfunding was the issue with CBS. The real issue could be misuse of the funds raised and/or the fact AP was essentially promoting Axanar as a "professional" feature to rival official productions. And he was blatantly using CBS' IP as a means to profit rather than simply producing his fan project like the vast majority of other fan productions.

Note the only other production asked to halt their production was Horizon who was also embarking on producing a feature. And we don't know whether they were asked to stop because they were about to produce a feature or to spare them getting entangled in the Axanar mess. And we haven't yet heard of any other productions--notably the series like ones--being asked to suspend their works. That might indeed have happened, but if so it's hard to believe no word of that has gotten out.

I had a similar thought which i posted in a different thread - (ignoring the insane amounts of merchandising and line crossing Axanar is guilty of, fo the moment) - the other common threads between the two productions targeted are the feature movie length target goal, and the pre TOS post ENT time period. Either one could be huge in terms of reasoning; (the only previous "feature" was released in 3 parts)... especially if the new series or some other upcoming official project is remotely going to be dealing with the time period in question. They have a wide open swath of canon to fill.... maybe TPB doesn't want fan material edging into similar places in terms of content, which could make future legalities a bit funky. The last thing they would want is to be accused of ripping off fan ideas, or to be held back because a fan did it first, or to have the canon accepted as official, even though it was fanmade. (Not that they actually care about canon, I'm just thinking out loud.... Axanar fucked up really bad by trying to copywrite their ships and ideas as their own intellectual property.
 
ok, I concede that things are now extremely exciting in the world of production.. I've been stung by things like this, so forgive me if I'm not fully in agreement with some things.. I applaud STC in a lot of things, I hope that they can improve on the script side of things.. Thats the thing I find lacking.. It's the same with Who fan films.. you can have all the best gear, software.. Most of the fan films are still rehashes of NuWho stories with not much story to them.

But doesn't it tell you something that with 7 days currently remaining, they still haven't reached 50%. Axanar has played a part, yes, but perhaps the shine is coming off because of other things?
 
No, I don't buy the issue of writing as the source of STC's troubles. I think they are indeed catching flak from Axanar's bullshit. Every single episode from STC has been well received and they win awards and accolades. They have comported themselves above reproach in terms of how the money they raise is used.

No, this grief is not of their own doing.
 
I was only saying that I'n not a fan of their writing, I find it lacking.. but there comes a time when you have to stop blaming Axanar all the time.
 
oh well, we shall see what happens.. I'd love to see more productions..

My apologies if I have typed anything untoward.
 
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I think Continues or Phase II should do a TOS series finale where Enterprise pulls into Spacedock, Spock returns to Vulcan, McCoy retires and Kirk gets promoted, then at least it's done.

Then if they're able to, go back and make more episodes set in between.

I'm afraid my trademark optimism has waned considerably.
I would not presume to debate you.

STC will get my support, regardless, as long as they consider it worthwhile to ask for it.
 
We can't tell what will happen. Simple as.

Continues is very very popular and has a high profile. Vic and co have a positive attitude. And yes AP is largely to blame.

There are other major groups at risk. Farragut for example - they are planning to move to the Movie era -- it will take a lot of work and money to change everything even though they are using mostly green screen ; and Renegades have what I believe will be their final production with numerous familiar faces, including what's planned to be Walter Koenigs swan song as Chekov.

They still have perks available. I think the bottom line with these issues is funding but fan film fans have grown to accept a certain level of quality from higher profile groups
 
No, I don't buy the issue of writing as the source of STC's troubles. I think they are indeed catching flak from Axanar's bullshit. Every single episode from STC has been well received and they win awards and accolades. They have comported themselves above reproach in terms of how the money they raise is used.

No, this grief is not of their own doing.

I agree. I think the Indiegogo campaign started off too slow as they had the perception that it would be easier to raise the funds than it was. When they kicked it into high gear the Axanar disaster was a full blown mess and there was no escaping the blast radius no matter what they did. The number of total people contributing dropped way off from last time and there were far fewer people buying the high end rewards than previously. If the campaign is going strong I think there is a natural tendency for people to want to jump on board. They had some excellent rewards and some great videos from the cast and guest stars. Thank God they decided to go with Indiegogo and not Kickstarter as they will get the funds and can still regroup. A strong Episode 6 showing in Orlando and a plea for donations to keep the dream alive may well still bring this home.
 
^^ Yeah, even id crowdfunding isn't workable anymore people can still donate/contribute directly through the home website.
 
This Axanar business has poisoned the well, both on the side of the donors and CBS & Paramount. Alec Peters' delusions of grandeur (or godhood, whichever you like) may very well be the death of fan films as we've come to know them.

It seems that AP's goal of playing Garth has played out in real life, before our very eyes.

Thanks, Alec. :P
 
It could just be that people are growing weary of these fan productions coming for money again and again.
 
It could just be that people are growing weary of these fan productions coming for money again and again.

That could be. The very notion that raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for something like this is as easy as asking for it is a pretty recent one itself; throw an impediment or two in the way and it's possible that the whole crowdfunding fan film thing will have turned out to be a bit faddish.
 
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