Probably more about plundered stuff. Bit of an Intergalactic British Museum.I would expect the Klingons to have a similar institution for their own reasons.
Probably more about plundered stuff. Bit of an Intergalactic British Museum.I would expect the Klingons to have a similar institution for their own reasons.
It was the "Ship of teh Sisko". What more can you ask for?Oh, I think it would have been fun to see a Crossfield or Walker class ship in the Museum too. But yeah, seeing all the old nostalgic ships was a lot of fun.
Side-note: I wonder what the 2375 Defiant did after the war ended that warranted being sent to the Fleet Museum?
Hopefully that's coming, at least in episode 10.We never saw inside the museum (spacedock) and we know that can hold several starship at least!
It was the "Ship of teh Sisko". What more can you ask for?
Hopefully that's coming, at least in episode 10.
We can't limit our imagination on these things to simply what we've seen on TV and in movies. It's a great big Federation and no doubt there were other ships and crews that did historic things.Arguably the Defiant was the most prominent ship, despite being...very smol (sorry Worf) in many Dominion War engagements.
The E-A, Bounty, Q-1, Excelsior and NX-01 arguably are the most logical additions there.
Stargazer..sure..Picards ship, ship of the "Picard Maneuver"..but otherwise just a normal Constellation Class starship.
So it would seem.The New Jersey was the last of the Connies not to be destroyed or refit to TMP tech?
The New Jersey was the last of the Connies not to be destroyed or refit to TMP tech?
On the conrary, production sources DO make the E-A/Yorktown connection.Nope. That's an urban myth.
No one from production, not even Gene said the Enterprise-A was a renamed Yorktown.
According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia (4th ed., vol. 2, p. 509), "Roddenberry reportedly suggested the second USS Enterprise-A, launched at the end of Star Trek IV, had previously been named USS Yorktown since it seemed unlikely that Starfleet could have built a new Enterprise so quickly. If this was the case, the Yorktown may have made it safely back to Earth and been repaired and renamed, or perhaps there was a newer, replacement Yorktown already under construction at the time of the probe crisis." The latter scenario could be supported by dialogue from Star Trek V where the Enterprise is described as a "new ship" by Scotty, whereas the former scenario serves as a convenient rationale for the difficulties Scotty had of getting the apparently recently refitted ship (therefore also fitting his "new ship" remark, akin to a similar remark Will Decker had already made on the refit-Enterprise in Star Trek: The Motion Picture) back in operational order after the debilitating effects the Whale Probe had inflicted on it.
The season four internal studio document, Star Trek: The Next Generation Writers' Technical Manual (2nd ed. p. 6), co-written by Star Trek Encyclopedia Co-Author Michael Okuda, emphatically stated the renaming scenario as being the case, reiterated in its one year later released Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual spinoff publication and reaffirmed in the even later officially licensed Star Trek Fact Files and the 2010 reference book USS Enterprise Owners' Workshop Manual. This was further validated when, in later Star Trek Encyclopedias, Okuda described the 2293 Yorktown – the one Tuvok's father served on – as the second ship to bear the name....
fanon, the official franchise, and the above mentioned production staffers have all alike firmly embraced the 23rd century ship as being the "SS Yorktown (NCC-1717), Constitution-class", as was amply demonstrated when the British, officially licensed, partwork publication Star Trek: The Official Starships Collection from Eaglemoss Collections, released a convention-exclusive model of the ship as such in 2016. Incidentally, in the wake of the franchise's 2002 re-evalution of the older reference books written from an in-universe perspective, only The Next Generation Technical Manual, Star Trek Chronology and the Encyclopedia were retained as "official" – as in compliance with established (onscreen) canon. (Star Trek: The Magazine Volume 2, Issue 11, p. 71) All subsequent licensed in-universe reference works, such as the above-mentioned ones, needed henceforth to be in concordance with the information contained within these three works, which played a major part in the growing acceptance – even by the franchise itself, as stated – that it was indeed the USS Yorktown NCC-1717 that became the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A, even though a formal onscreen canon confirmation has as of 2019 yet to materialize.
Memory Alpha, citing various production sources
"All of which amounts to a hill of beans," to quote my grandmother.On the conrary, production sources DO make the E-A/Yorktown connection.
I think being three ship that broke through the lines and delivered Odo to accept the female changeling's surrender would make a pretty famous ship.Side-note: I wonder what the 2375 Defiant did after the war ended that warranted being sent to the Fleet Museum?
Fair enough. I guess it could also be that the Federation of the late 24th/early 25th cenutry isn't so gun-shy about warships. Between the Defiant, the Prometheus, and the Inquiry class starships, Starfleet has definitely taken a step back from the moral high ground of "no warships."Museums are examples of historical events and their significance. Doesn't automatically convey glory.
I mean, they suffered intense losses. It would be even more bass ackwards and crazy to not recall it and not learn something from it.Fair enough. I guess it could also be that the Federation of the late 24th/early 25th cenutry isn't so gun-shy about warships. Between the Defiant, the Prometheus, and the Inquiry class starships, Starfleet has definitely taken a step back from the moral high ground of "no warships."
That makes me wonder, did the Dominion War cause even more culture shock then the Romulan War? I mean, I'm sure the number of deaths were far greater during the Dominion War, but that was because it was pretty much the "World War Alpha Quadrant."I mean, they suffered intense losses. It would be even more bass ackwards and crazy to not recall it and not learn something from it.
I think it did not because of the casualties but because of the nature of the foe. To quote SF Debris "The Borg might turn your friends against you; the Dominion they might already have." The Federation, and Earth, are built around mutual trust and cooperation. Every facet, even computer security, is treated as a matter of trust. But now, you have a foe who could be your friend. It damages a society to be that paranoid.That makes me wonder, did the Dominion War cause even more culture shock then the Romulan War? I mean, I'm sure the number of deaths were far greater during the Dominion War, but that was because it was pretty much the "World War Alpha Quadrant."
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