Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Magistos

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    I'm thinking along those same lines. The networking, plus any residual borg tech Janeway brought back that has been integrated into fleet use, plus possibly something in the Locutus body - an implant that couldn't be removed - able to issue commands and shut down the fleet.

    I can't figure how Jack fits in though.
     
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    They wanted to reassign Riker to command a starship for 13 years before he finally accepted the job. It seems like transfers are generally optional for successful officers who are in a position that works for them. If you're as unsettled as Sisko however, you don't get to say no when they send you off to command an alien space station in Space Siberia.
     
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    I always imagined DS9 as more so an old frontier style fort than Space Siberia..but I did laugh
     
  5. WarpFactorZ

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    Why did he lengthen the Excelsior but not the Enterprise? I'm pretty sure the "original" (non-canon) length of the former was something like 460m. Upscale the Excelsior to 600m and Ent/Constitution class to 450m.
     
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    It was more like the ALAMO after the battle, when Sisko arrived.
     
  7. HotRod

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    I'm fine with 442m for the Constitution and 511m for the Excelsior. I just wish the Picard art department paid attention to what Strange New Worlds is doing.
     
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  8. Dukhat

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    I don’t think it’s a matter of them not paying attention. I think it’s a matter of them not really knowing what to do about SNW’s visual inconsistency, and choosing (correctly in my opinion) to go with the TOS visuals for their show.
     
  9. Sci

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    Promotional artwork is not canonical..

    I mean, the ships we saw at the Starfleet Museum were themselves wildly out of scale with one-another. I'm sorry, but no way the HMS Bounty was that big given how small it looked when landed on Vulcan or when the crew were clinging to its hull as it sank. And that's to say nothing of ships where the scale was never consistent, like the Defiant. So I think we should all just take a chill pill on this whole "starship size" thing, since Star Trek has never been good about keeping them to scale.
     
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  10. Dukhat

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    I wasn’t talking about scale. @HotRod was. I was talking about the decision to use a TOS Constitution class rather than a SNW Constitution class.
     
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  11. Sci

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    Gotcha. I don't think that was "them not really knowing what to do about SNW’s visual inconsistency;" I think they just wanted to use the TOS version of a Constitution-class ship.
     
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    Maybe for you but people just don't make this stuff for Shits and giggles.
     
  13. Sci

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    Of course not. They make it to promote their television show so that people will buy subscriptions to Paramount+ and watch it.

    But it's still not canonical, any more than The Star Trek Encyclopedia is canonical.
     
  14. Dukhat

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    Absolutely. Because despite showing a hologram of it in season 1, nobody has nostalgia for the SNW version. Or for any other DSC Starfleet vessel for that matter. Conversely, I would have done a figurative backflip had they shown any of the Franz Joseph ships or any of the FASA ships.
     
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  15. Sci

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    Oh, I think it would have been fun to see a Crossfield or Walker class ship in the Museum too. But yeah, seeing all the old nostalgic ships was a lot of fun. :)

    Side-note: I wonder what the 2375 Defiant did after the war ended that warranted being sent to the Fleet Museum?
     
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  16. Dukhat

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    I myself was pretty underwhelmed with most of the ships they showed.
     
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    I imagine an actual Starfleet Museum would be like the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum, with exhibits of the oldest starships to more modern starships. It would probably include ships from different nations that had significance to the history of Starfleet, whether on loan or captured in battle. It would include all manner of items related to Starfleet's history, such as those seen in modern military museums. However, this would be an exorbitant cost to a show that is working on a tight budget.
     
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    I’m kind of curious why the Klingons would have “loaned out” Kronos One to a Starfleet Museum. Doesn’t seem a very Klingon-y thing to do. The Bounty makes sense, because of its involvement with the Whale Probe incident and the role it played in saving Earth and the Federation, but the K1 is a curious choice.
     
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    Although with the (mostly) friendlier relations between the Empire and the Federation since 2293 a Chancellor like Gowron or Martok could well have loaned the vessel to Starfleet in the interest of the alliance and the pivotal role in peace that Gorkon's mission represented.
     
  20. Tuskin38

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    I still think it was because some of them would be impossible to see in wide shots at the correct scale.

    That’s the reason shows usually cheat scale
     
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