Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    Plus didn't Prodigy also show the TOS-E in its original configuration? These folks need to make up their flipping minds.
     
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    PRO shows two TOS-style Constitution-class starships as outlines in an historical holoprogram.
     
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    Yep. Right alongside the Discovery. :shrug:
     
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    As long as the ship looks like it did in WNMHGB, I would be satisfied.
     
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    One of the displays at SFA in Season 2, which you can just barely see on screen, showed a TOS Style Connie USS Constellation. There was concept art for these displays using the DSC Enterprise, but it was never used.
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    To note, Seasons 2 and 3 have had mostly different art teams, 2 and 3 have been more 'nostalgic' lets say, with their direction than Season 1's team was.

    The 23rd Century Stargazer wasn't quite TOS style, it was in the designers version of the TOS era aesthetic.

    https://twitter.com/BuckAdmiral/status/1499477981626093573
     
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    It’s so weird that they are trying to sorta “have their cake and eat it too” when it comes to the Enterprise vs the Discoprise.
     
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    The first TOS-style Connie is visible here. The second becomes visible for just a brief moment as the camera zooms past Janklom Pog.

    The moment is at around 0:43 in the clip.

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    I'm just guessing there's no mandate as to which one productions are allowed to use.
     
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    Possibly because it's supposed to be fun rather than history.
     
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    and to me that seems odd.

    then why bother using in-universe “historical” characters at all?
     
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    changing the ship design is no different than casting a new actor. It's still the same ship, it just looks different.

    Like when Discovery did that previously on to The Cage, they didn't replace the Enterprise in those shots, heck they even used original TOS footage not the remastered CG shots.
     
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    I was talking more consistency between Kurtzman-verse to Kurtzman-verse. Not Kurtzman-verse to Roddenberry-verse. Sorta how all the “classic” Trek shows depicted the TOS era all one way. I would expect all the nu-Trek shows to all have the same look from Disco to Prodigy.

    I’ve always thought using footage from The Cage was a troll/jab at those of us that see nu-Trek as an alternate universe.
     
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    It clearly wasn't. It was to show it was still connected.
     
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    Yes, it was literally saying "these are the same characters, they experienced the same events, they just look different now".

    I just assume the TOS Enterprise is how the ship used to look, but now it's been refitted. This is consistent with Ephraim and Dot too.

    The only wrinkle is if the ship is supposed to get changed back before it's handed over to Kirk, which is what some of the supporting material gamefully still suggests. This seems a bit silly to me, and already is disputed by A Quality of Mercy.
     
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    All true. But nobody ever showed Kirstie Alley's Saavik along with Robin Curtis' Saavik in the same episode or movie as these other productions are doing (seemingly) intentionally w/ the TOS-E vs DSC-E. It's honestly kind of unprecedented and a bit befuddling.
     
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    To show it's all connected.
    That people expect to be trolled by a production team is quite odd.
     
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    That is a damn-fine write-up. Bernd definitely outdid himself with that one. Also looks like Jörg Hillebrand was also given credit for the article as a primary contributor, which makes perfect sense. Those two are a force of nature when it comes to Treknology. :lol:
     
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    Jorg's twitter account is a treat.