starfleet uniform

[jamestyler]

Reading JustKate's post has put the idea in my head of dressing up in the Clockwork Orange outfit from now on. Or as Hulk Hogan. Or Batman.

I enjoy dressing up for Halloween and stag nights too much/

 

[JustKate]

No you're not a Starfleet officer, and you never will be, you just like the show. But those others aren't professional football players, and they never will be, they just like watching the sport.
So what's the difference? Typical society bullshit

Well, there is a difference between wearing a full Starfleet uniform and wearing a sports or Starfleet jersey. The first is a costume and the latter two are just shirts.

There is even a difference between wearing a full Starfleet uniform and wearing a full sports uniform, and that is that...there really is such a thing as Team X, whereas Starfleet is, I'm sorry to say, fictional. It's not real.

But reality based or not, people would look at you somewhat askance if you wore your 49ers uniform to jury duty or to work. I sure the heck would. If I saw somebody just wearing one around town, I'd probably assume they were going to play football. Or going to a costume party. In contrast, I wouldn't think somebody wearing a Starfleet uniform was a Starfleet officer.

That's the difference.

 

[JustKate]

Reading JustKate's post has put the idea in my head of dressing up in the Clockwork Orange outfit from now on. Or as Hulk Hogan. Or Batman.

I enjoy dressing up for Halloween and stag nights too much/

Just be careful putting on your mascara. That stuff's tricky until you get the hang of it.

 

[jamestyler]

Just be careful putting on your mascara. That stuff's tricky until you get the hang of it.

I'd just use fake eyelashes and pile on my eyeliner.

Not that I've given it much thought

 

[JustKate]

^ Oh, but see, your fake eyelashes will blend in with your real ones much better if you use mascara!

Anyway, mascara is far easier to put on than fake eyelashes.

Hey, I'm a girl - I can't help it that I know these things.

 

[jamestyler]

I'll take it under advisement

Sadly I know more about dressing up than any man should. Professional side effect

 

[TS-1838-SWATH]

I suppose it's better than dressing up as a Klingon in public. But I still wouldn't advise it. It'd be like self-pinning a note to your back saying "Kick me."

LOL

 

[TS-1838-SWATH]

I think there are some pieces of uniforms that could be worn in public.

1) Picards Jacket that they had him use during the 5th season would probably not draw a lot of attention or problems.

2) One of the layers of the First contact Uniforms would probably be okay, the gray jackets from Enterprise, the turtlenecks under the TWOK or DS9 uniforms and Enterprise's desert gear.

Of those, I could see myself wearing the Enterprise gray jacket in public. I have never seen it available, so I don't expect to ever.

1) Yes the year 5 Jacket

2) The Former Cadet Uniform? Yes But I never liked that one
2)The turtlenecks from Star Trek 2 to 6
2) ENT gray jacket- The one for Landing Parites?

 

[Dark Gilligan]

Is this question serious? Yes it's wrong. People will think you're an ass, and it would reflect badly on those of us who can still publicly admit we like Star Trek.

 

[BillJ]

I'll just quote Commander Kruge here:

"I hope pain is something you enjoy"

Think that's the quote.

 

[Vonstadt]

To be honest, yes it makes you look a bell end, but why does society deem it okay for people to wear say a football/soccer shirt of your favourite team in real life?
Or a Rugby shirt, whatever, etc. That's perfectly normal and no one would care or take a second glance if one wore that walking down the highstreet. Yet I one wore a Starfleet uniform around town you'd probably end up getting harrased ala The Elephant Man

No you're not a Starfleet officer, and you never will be, you just like the show. But those others aren't professional football players, and they never will be, they just like watching the sport.
So what's the difference? Typical society bullshit

Well the equivilant there would be for said fan to dress up in full pads and uniform for everyday life. Society would consider them nutjobs too.

A simple jersey would be like wearing just a shirt or jacket from the show.

Which in both cases is acceptable.

Speaking of which I still have my Klingon and UFP Hockey Jerseys, they were okay to wear around. I got picked on a few times I wore the Klingon one while playing...

That is until we got into the corner fighting for the puck!

 

[Jefferies]

To be honest, yes it makes you look a bell end, but why does society deem it okay for people to wear say a football/soccer shirt of your favourite team in real life?
Or a Rugby shirt, whatever, etc. That's perfectly normal and no one would care or take a second glance if one wore that walking down the highstreet. Yet I one wore a Starfleet uniform around town you'd probably end up getting harrased ala The Elephant Man

No you're not a Starfleet officer, and you never will be, you just like the show. But those others aren't professional football players, and they never will be, they just like watching the sport.
So what's the difference? Typical society bullshit

I don't think all of society finds it acceptable when people wear sports uniforms outside of occasions they are meant for. In most professions it would certainly be totally inappropriate if worn to work. Furthermore, outside of that it signifies bad taste and a lack of style, which might indicate a low socio-economic status. Here in Britain, when I see people in public, who are obviously not participating in a sport event but are wearing sport attire, I can't help the pejorative of chav, ned or pikey cross my mind. Does this make me an elitist snob? Well, to some degree I guess, but then again I would argue that this is a wide spread judgmental response in this society to people who are unsophisticated.

 

[clint g]

To be honest, yes it makes you look a bell end, but why does society deem it okay for people to wear say a football/soccer shirt of your favourite team in real life?
Or a Rugby shirt, whatever, etc. That's perfectly normal and no one would care or take a second glance if one wore that walking down the highstreet. Yet I one wore a Starfleet uniform around town you'd probably end up getting harrased ala The Elephant Man

No you're not a Starfleet officer, and you never will be, you just like the show. But those others aren't professional football players, and they never will be, they just like watching the sport.
So what's the difference? Typical society bullshit

Because football and soccer are sports; they involve physical activity and physical fitness. Now I'm not saying everyone who wears those things ARE fit, but it conveys an image of strength and activity, both of which are considered good things in society. Wearing a trek uniform conveys the idea that you are playing dress up for an imaginary show.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Do not wear a Starfleet costume (as previously mentioned, it's not a uniform but a costume) in real life.

"They're all going to laugh at you," and they definitely will. Including other Star Trek fans. Just don't do it.

But there are online stores out there that sell Star Trek everyday apparel (like tee-shirts and ball caps) that can still let the world know you love Star Trek, but that you're still living in the real world and not living out a fantasy...

 

[Jefferies]

Because football and soccer are sports; they involve physical activity and physical fitness. Now I'm not saying everyone who wears those things ARE fit, but it conveys an image of strength and activity, both of which are considered good things in society. Wearing a trek uniform conveys the idea that you are playing dress up for an imaginary show.

I disagree, it's simply a different kind of silliness. I would have trouble taking someone seriously who came to me garbed in a football uniform or wearing a track suit outside of a sport related environment. I certainly would not come to think of any positive physical associations such as fitness or strength because of these types of clothes, especially as many people who wear them in this inappropriate fashion often aren't very fit at all.

However, If I saw people dressed up as a Jedi, Klingon or Elf from Middle Earth, I would probably think they were involved in some sort of costume party and give them the benefit of the doubt. I would be much less inclined to judge them unfavourably when meeting them for the first time than chavy track suit people.

I will give you a nother example why I think your explanation does not work. I'm a medical student and have been in medical environments many times which required clothes that are commonly associated with the medical profession, such as scrubs, lab coats etc. On occassion due to lazyness, lack of time or whatever, I had to go from the work place to a public area, such as the supermarket, fastfood resturant, post office etc. while wearing these clothes. People tended to look at me strangely when ever I did this, even though medicine has a lot of high regard. When ever you do things that are out of place people will think you are weird or some kind of hack or looser.

 

[FordSVT]

^If people don't recognize hospital scrubs when they see them they are retarded.

The difference between wearing a football jersey and wearing a Starfleet uniform is that tens of millions of people wear the colours of their favourite sports club, while you might find one person in a city of a million wearing his Starfleet uniform every day. And people aren't walking around in shorts, cleats and knee pads, it's usually just a cap or a simple jersey. Social mores are predicated on what's common, not the other way around. Like it or not, wearing a SF uniform every day is not common and will be treated as such by 99% of the population.

Don't get me wrong, there are people as "hard core" about their favourite sports team as any Trekkie is about Star Trek. There are people who take sports memorabilia, trivia and public behaviour to very weird places in almost any fandom. I simply don't believe you when you say you'd think a guy wearing a Manchester United or New York Yankees shirt is a stranger thing likely to garner more attention from you than someone wearing a Starfleet uniform and carrying a tricorder.

I note that in order for you take take the person in the Strek costume seriously you admit you've got to "imagine" they are going to a costume party or something, what if they came into your store every day dressed like that?

 

[Jefferies]

^If people don't recognize hospital scrubs when they see them they are retarded.

The difference between wearing a football jersey and wearing a Starfleet uniform is that tens of millions of people wear the colours of their favourite sports club, while you might find one person in a city of a million wearing his Starfleet uniform every day. And people aren't walking around in shorts, cleats and knee pads, it's usually just a cap or a simple jersey. Social mores are predicated on what's common, not the other way around. Like it or not, wearing a SF uniform every day is not common and will be treated as such by 99% of the population.

Don't get me wrong, there are people as "hard core" about their favourite sports team as any Trekkie is about Star Trek. There are people who take sports memorabilia, trivia and public behaviour to very weird places in almost any fandom. I simply don't believe you when you say you'd think a guy wearing a Manchester United or New York Yankees shirt is a stranger thing likely to garner more attention from you than someone wearing a Starfleet uniform and carrying a tricorder.

I note that in order for you take take the person in the Strek costume seriously you admit you've got to "imagine" they are going to a costume party or something, what if they came into your store every day dressed like that?

Well, if I were to encounter someone who wore Star Trek costumes on a regular basis in public, I would lean towards a diagnosis of mood-disorder with manic episodes, hebephrenic schizophrenia or histrionic personality disorder.

Also with the scrubs, I don’t think people didn’t recognise them, they just thought I was a weirdo for wearing them in public. But it's always possible of course that some might have thought they were pyjamas, especially as their colouring was baby blue .

With regard to the sports wear I maintain my opinion. Here in Britain there is a negative stereotype associated with people who run around in sport clothing like track suites and football shirts on a regular basis outside of sport related situations. They will be associated with so-called chavs, i.e. the underclass. The prejudice will be that they lack education, live in government-funded housing and are predisposed to violent and unruly behaviour. However, you are right, they would not garner more attention than someone in a full set of Star Trek regalia, but people's opinions of them might still be worse. Of course this deepnds on which label you dislike more: crazy or scum?

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

But there are online stores out there that sell Star Trek everyday apparel (like tee-shirts and ball caps) that can still let the world know you love Star Trek, but that you're still living in the real world and not living out a fantasy...

Exactly, such as this that I bought: http://www.offworlddesigns.com/p-440-bones-t-shirt.aspx

It's Star Trek, but not so completely in-your-face that I would have a problem wearing it out in public.

 

[plynch]

^If people don't recognize hospital scrubs when they see them they are retarded.

. . . I would lean towards a diagnosis of mood-disorder with manic episodes, hebephrenic schizophrenia or histrionic personality disorder.

Those are awfully different diagnoses. Manic episodes? From wearing a fictional uniform? And I hadn't heard "hebephrenic" in a decade. Schizophrenic?? For wearing a fictional uniform? Hopefully when you are no longer a student you will not diagnose people with only one eccentricity on which to base your judgement. Also, of course, when you are practicing, you will know it is unethical to make (very disparate) diagnoses of a person you do not know, via a public Star Trek forum. Perhaps ethics don't yet apply, since you are still a layperson, but be aware you are talking about real people here.

Also, denigrating the mentally retarded is not becoming a medical professional.

 

[plynch]

At a Star Trek convention it is okay, otherwise people will probably think you're weird.

I'm quoting this response just because it is representative of much of the thinking in this thread. Very consequentialist, much of it: things will go "bad" for one if one wears the uniform.

The OP asks, however, if it is "wrong," not how efficacious or helpful wearing the uni is, or if it is wise to do so.

So, as to his thread starter: is it wrong?