Starfleet Academy Official Trailer

[Detached Nacelle]

I brought receipts

All refunds require the original packaging too. Even if it's within warranty it may be necessary to get it sent away for repairs back to the manufacturer before any refunds can be issued in store. Any accidental or deliberate damage voids the warranty.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Even if we were to ignore the comment sections we still have

A long time poster here once said some very profound words -- "never mistake people bitching on the internet for any kind of a trend".

 

[Mage]

A long time poster here once said some very profound words -- "never mistake people bitching on the internet for any kind of a trend".

Absolutely. In today's society, we need to learn to accept that what seems like a majority is often a minority. They just shout a lot, and long. It's like with extremists in most religions. There's less of them then the ones that are peaceful and co-exist with others. It's just that the loud idiots make the rest look bad.

 

[Sn0man]

A long time poster here once said some very profound words -- "never mistake people bitching on the internet for any kind of a trend".

That's a wise statement. It applies perfectly here.

A loud minority can indeed create a distorted perception. But that's a double edged sword.

If we apply it consistently, we have to ask which is more likely to be the loud minority: a handful of regulars on a star trek forum who insist a commonly used internet slang isn't real because they can't find it in a google search and that a show will for sure be good, or the thousands of memes, comments, videos and criticisms across all relevant social media (including this forum) mocking it as "90210 in space".

You assert that the first group is the silent majority, while the second is the screaming, irrelevant minority.

That's an incredible feat of perception. It takes real effort to believe that the collective noise of the internet is the fringe, while the consensus of the in group on this specific thread is the mainstream.

Profound indeed.

 

[ToddCam]

I don't think anyone has asserted that SFA will be good. It's your insistence that it will be unpopular because "zoomies" supposedly make memes about a show that was off the air before they were born. And your evidence of that is a sort of youthful user image and anonymous posters on a 4chan-like thing.

I withhold judgment on "zoomies" until I can see some of my young friends again. I did not Google it, but I pick up on a lot of the slang nowadays being pretty immersed with a number of 18-23 year olds and would be surprised.

 

[The Wormhole]

The backlash to Amazon's Wheel of Time was vocal. It was large. And it ended with the cancellation of the show.

Large is large.

This is starting to feel like Lisa Simpson's "this rock keeps tigers away" joke.

 

[HotRod]

This is starting to feel like Lisa Simpson's "this rock keeps tigers away" joke.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't think anyone has asserted that SFA will be good. It's your insistence that it will be unpopular because "zoomies" supposedly make memes about a show that was off the air before they were born. And your evidence of that is a sort of youthful user image and anonymous posters on a 4chan-like thing.

I withhold judgment on "zoomies" until I can see some of my young friends again. I did not Google it, but I pick up on a lot of the slang nowadays being pretty immersed with a number of 18-23 year olds and would be surprised.

Honestly, the biggest thing I see that insists SFA must be bad is that it features young people and that seems to be it's only crime.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Honestly, the biggest thing I see that insists SFA must be bad is that it features young people and that seems to be it's only crime.

Should I have passed on "Stranger Things", Harry Potter and Stand By Me since they feature teens?

 

[fireproof78]

Should I have passed on "Stranger Things", Harry Potter and Stand By Me since they feature teens?

Obviously.

 

[Firebird]

How do you know that? Do you have access to the specific viewer data that the streaming services keep hidden away under lock and key?

Even if we were to ignore the comment sections we still have

The ratings chasm - the difference between "professional reviewers" and audience scores
Trades (IGN, Variety, Hollywood Reporter) discussing fan dissatisfaction or declining audiences
Sustained negative engagement over time (video dislikes, low view counts etc)

Even without streaming services releasing the data, the reception of a property by the "large portion of the audience" is easy to infer using a combination of these metrics.

Only the terminally-online would think that online outlets represent the entirety of fandom, or that ratings by online critics/audiences are a viable metric for indicating what everyone thinks.

Everything you're listing there is feeding into your confirmation bias.

 

[cooleddie74]

The vocal fans on the Internet are always a small minority of any franchise fanbase. Trek included, and for all the thousands of registered members on this BBS there are millions upon millions of Trekkies around the world who wouldn't blog or post online about the shows and movies or wouldn't know The TrekBBS from an online crocheting club.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Only just become aware of and seen the trailer.

It looks fine. I’ll give it a shot and if it doesn’t work out for me after a few weeks, I can drop out as I did with most of the other modern Trek shows.

I don’t see anything particularly enticing in there, but at the same time it doesn’t look actively bad. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding.

 

[Tosk]

Only just become aware of and seen the trailer.

It looks fine. I’ll give it a shot and if it doesn’t work out for me after a few weeks, I can drop out as I did with most of the other modern Trek shows.

I don’t see anything particularly enticing in there, but at the same time it doesn’t look actively bad. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding.

Same here for me as well also. Except if it doesn't work for me I'll probably stick with it anyway. It'd have to be unbelievably awful for me to dump it.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Same here for me as well also. Except if it doesn't work for me I'll probably stick with it anyway. It'd have to be unbelievably awful for me to dump it.

I’ll give it 4 episodes or so.

As a general life rule, if I do a leisure-something for four hours and I’m not getting anything from it I quit.

Regardless, it looks fine. As usual, a minority of voices are trying to raise Hell whilst pretending to be a majority.

Ain’t ‘fans’ the best?

 

[Tosk]

As a general life rule, if I do a leisure-something for four hours and I’m not getting anything from it I quit.

If it was anything else I'd give up, but I'm stubborn when it comes to Trek. I've seen every episode so far, so I can't give up now.

 

[Kraig]

I paid for the service, I might as well watch what I paid for. Anyway, I don't listen to what others think about a show before they've even seen an episode, I will judge the show on my own, after I have watched it, not before it has even aired.

 

[fireproof78]

I’ll give it 4 episodes or so.

As a general life rule, if I do a leisure-something for four hours and I’m not getting anything from it I quit.

This, except it gets 1 maybe 2 episodes. Leisure time is limited.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

This, except it gets 1 maybe 2 episodes. Leisure time is limited.

I'm wavering on Pluribus after just 2 episodes. Everyone seems to love that show, but I'm just not seeing it.

But then, it took me 4 episodes to 'get' Silo, a show which I now love, so it's worth giving a little more than two I feel.

Especially when, as @Tosk says, it's Star Trek. I'm a fan, so SFA may well get a season before I decide whether or not I'm onboard.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm wavering on Pluribus after just 2 episodes. Everyone seems to love that show, but I'm just not seeing it.

But then, it took me 4 episodes to 'get' Silo, a show which I now love, so it's worth giving a little more than two I feel.

Especially when, as @Tosk says, it's Star Trek. I'm a fan, so SFA may well get a season before I decide whether or not I'm onboard.

I get it. But, 2 is usually my limit at least on the fist go. It's just how it rolls with no real exceptions. Star Trek has let me down enough as a youth that it doesn't really get a pass any more.