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Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

Also when you don't have physical bodies.

It is weird that the Ocampa were still fully dressed as they returned from Susperia's realm in Coldfire.

Legend has it that no one asked Shanks to do nude scenes whenever his character Daniel Jackson descended from a higher plane. He just made a natural assumption the first time around, and everyone was fine with it. ;)
 
Even before tricorders and force fields and shields Starfleet largely worked the same. Hand scanners, experimental energy fields and polarized hull plating. 32nd century Starfleet is just a sleeker and fancier-sounding version of what Archer's crew dealt with a thousand years before.

The drapings change, but the overall decor doesn't very much.
 
Can people not hint at spoilers here? I feel like I might have already been spoiled. Put your gags relating to spoilers behind spoiler tags too, please.
Sorry about that. Traditionally the series specific “general discussion” threads have had a spoiler tag added to the thread title, since discussion will inevitably veer into mentioning something from an upcoming episode etc., but on this one I just forgot. Added it now. So be warned, possible spoilers from here on out. :)

Physical PADDs and tricorders? What happened to the Tricom?
Can’t say I’d be too sad about losing the Tricom, to be honest. I appreciate that they wanted to create something new and more futuristic for the 32nd century, but the visual never quite worked for me and looked kinda goofy.
 
Physical PADDs and tricorders? What happened to the Tricom?
I suspect this might be production related, it's cheaper to make practical props than it is to have to use the VFX budget to have the holographic interface floating in front of the characters. Plus, I'm sure the actors like having something to actually interact with rather than waving their hands around at empty air as though they're operating an interface.
 
Sorry about that. Traditionally the series specific “general discussion” threads have had a spoiler tag added to the thread title, since discussion will inevitably veer into mentioning something from an upcoming episode etc., but on this one I just forgot. Added it now. So be warned, possible spoilers from here on out. :)


Can’t say I’d be too sad about losing the Tricom, to be honest. I appreciate that they wanted to create something new and more futuristic for the 32nd century, but the visual never quite worked for me and looked kinda goofy.

Totally agree. The tri com was dumb.

I suspect this might be production related, it's cheaper to make practical props than it is to have to use the VFX budget to have the holographic interface floating in front of the characters. Plus, I'm sure the actors like having something to actually interact with rather than waving their hands around at empty air as though they're operating an interface.

They still need to create graphics for the physical padds. They just know like we all do that the tri coms looked stupid and the graphics were always in the actors face and were reversed many times when the camera was pointed toward the actors face so the viewer couldn't read what the character was supposed to be looking at. The effect itself is easy to create and many peoole who do youtuge short films have done it at home on their computers.


The tri com badge hasnt been explained properly for the transporter. First they were fully minaturized transporters later on it was changed and they were badges that needed to be connected to the ship transporters. Also they never explain how the badges get people to their coordinates. They can't just think of where they want to go especially if its an alien world. The transporter needs coordinates. Yet in the first time we see them in use Burnham is hop skipping and jumping all over a world with the badge. Its idiotic.

They really needed the discovery to travel to the 25th century. There the tech was only slightly more advanced. Instead they picked the 32nd century and the tech was too advanced and wasnt either explained properly or was too advanced and made things to easy. So now the show runner and writers are stuck with either using the terrible tech they came up with or regressing it. They're now regressing it. So padds look just like they did 900 years before. They look about as thick as they were and still similar to our 21st century tablets in thickness. They could easily have made the padds as thick as a sheet of paper but sturdy to hold and combined it with the tricorder. Left the badge communicater and transporter together but had limitations on the transporter part by having then use a air graphic transporter panel that the badge user could operate independently like a ship transporter chief. That would have been advancements that at least made sense. But we are dealing with people that really don't care about things making sense. They destroyed established canon long ago. Smh
 
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In universe it's probably just a thing for the academy. Something something managability. Cadets dont get access to the fancy stuff yet so the staff dont use it either.

Interestingly we see a flashback with Holly Hunter in the 3180s uniform and no badge of any kind.
 
They really needed the discovery to travel to the 25th century. There the tech was only slightly more advanced. Instead they picked the 32nd century and the tech was too advanced and wasnt either explained properly or was too advanced and made things to easy. So now the show runner and writers are stuck with either using the terrible tech they came up with or regressing it. They're now regressing it. So padds look just like they did 900 years before. They look about as thick as they were and still similar to our 21st century tablets in thickness. They could easily have made the padds as thick as a sheet of paper but sturdy to hold and combined it with the tricorder. Left the badge communicater and transporter together but had limitations on the transporter part by having then use a air graphic transporter panel that the badge user could operate independently like a ship transporter chief. That would have been advancements that at least made sense. But we are dealing with people that really don't care about things making sense. They destroyed established canon long ago. Smh
Yup, they absolutely should have traveled to the 25th or 26th centuries.

Everything would have made so much more sense that way. Well, except the Burn, but that was always too stupid to work.
 
Once we got the stupid Temporal Cold War nonsense all bets were off. Romulan cloaks, warp drive, Borg tech, it all gets thrown in way earlier. Timelines become more irrelevant.
 
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