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Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

Not in a teacher-student context. And what about the attention part?


Students not respecting their teachers is not normal. Doesn't matter if it's a civilian or, in this case, a military context.
Maybe it is in postmodern Western societies (and specially in certain problematic communities). In most parts of the world, societies have a very different attitude towards respect.
Trying to normalize disrespecting teachers is a sign of larger cultural problems.
This might be one of the dumbest claims I've read on this forum. I take you have never met a teenager? Rebellious behaviour is literally a developmental phase that all juvenile humans go through.
 
I work as senior lecturer in university, and as a deputy head of one of the teaching departments, so I have an idea or two about students and lecturers, docents and professors (more about my colleagues, really)... The question is what kind of future we'll have in the series—Roddenberry's vision or one created by people who appeal to a new generation that doesn't care much about duty and honor to the degree of... well, dying for it like Sato did fresh from Academy or Riker did when he was defending his captain. In TNG series, we see the Starfleet Academy, and in the novels, we learn that respect is a fundamental value among students and teachers. You may disagree, but you have to respect the institution you're trying to join and teach about because it unites all and it supposed to represent the best of humanity as a concept. I don't see the Starfleet Academy as an institution just as a high school with unruly students, and although the post-disco timeline seems to demand a society that's centuries late and so to speak different, I still hope to see some decency from the students towards their teachers first. Teachers at the Academy aren't paid, are they? (Or have we moved to a fully money-driven world?) They dedicate themselves to molding Starfleet cadets, often giving years of their lives to the task. It's a calling, a passion. I still believe the original goal was personal growth. Being better meant being kind, respectful, brave, knowledgeable, professional, passionate, and competitive. These qualities were meant to help achieve personal goals that would ultimately benefit society as a whole. I would hope I would see that in the SFA at some point.
 
Being better meant being kind, respectful, brave, knowledgeable, professional, passionate, and competitive. These qualities were meant to help achieve personal goals that would ultimately benefit society as a whole. I would hope I would see that in the SFA at some point.
I fully expect it but it isn't a first thing. I might have respect for the institution or the title but not the person. I have definitely had instructors that I struggled to respect and was told I had to anyway by parents.

That doesn't mean respect should be assumed. Respect can look different from culture to culture and those factors must be considered otherwise they are rather meaningless.
This might be one of the dumbest claims I've read on this forum. I take you have never met a teenager? Rebellious behaviour is literally a developmental phase that all juvenile humans go through.
"Youth are not called callow for no reason."
~Patrick F. McManus.
 
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