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News Starfleet Academy Coming to P+

Berman Trek studiously refused to reference anything not in the public domain when it came to copyright. It let up a little bit when we got to VOY with Tom's love of the 1950s, or the movie nights on ENT, but still, in general, they were raving classicists.

There were little flashes of "future history" peppered within TNG - places things that happened in the 21st and 22nd century were referenced, even though it wasn't story relevant. Some of it (like Irish reunification) has been rendered impossible now. Still, I always loved these as a kid, and now as an adult writer I realize this is the "iceberg" model of worldbulding - letting someone know just hints about the wider world, so they can imagine what's going on beneath.

Modern Trek has, unfortunately, avoided this, which has led to it feeling smaller and more stagey. The only things worth mentioning appear to be things we already know about. I honestly don't get what's driving it, but maybe it's the modern minimalist idea regarding screenplays - that every line of dialogue needs to further plot and character.
Referencing anything not "public domain" costs an absurd amount of money.
 
It's nice to see the trailer received so well especially after the mixed reaction to Sec31. It's a truly inspiring trailer, and they didn't take any chances on making it too "edgy", it's just pure optimism for the new Federation.
 
The show is set in the Prime Timeline.
But this Academy show is set in the *far* future of Star Trek, a future which includes the repercussions of Nero’s temporal incursion into the 23rd century creating the JJ-verse, likely at the start of the time war which resulted in the destruction of Romulus and Remus. This Academy series is a bit like the Voy episode Timeless, or a reboot of Living Witness starring the Doctor, or the future scenes from All Good Things. Star Trek prime timeline should be set in the early 25th century, not in a fantasy sci-fi cloud cuckoo land. Therefore, as the future is not yet written, by setting this new show in the Disco-verse alt future, it is technically neither canon or prime, merely a possible multiverse future of the prime Star Trek Universe which is still truly awaiting to be written and continued in a Legacy series.
 
But this Academy show is set in the *far* future of Star Trek, a future which includes the repercussions of Nero’s temporal incursion into the 23rd century creating the JJ-verse, likely at the start of the time war which resulted in the destruction of Romulus and Remus. This Academy series is a bit like the Voy episode Timeless, or a reboot of Living Witness starring the Doctor, or the future acenes from All Good Things. Star Trek prime timeline should be set in the early 25th century, not in a fantasy sci-fi cloud cuckoo land. Therefore, as the future is not yet written, by setting this new show in the Disco-verse alt future, it is technically neither canon or prime, merely a possible multiverse future of the prime Star Trek Universe which is still truly awaiting to be written and continued in a Legacy series.
No
 
But this Academy show is set in the *far* future of Star Trek, a future which includes the repercussions of Nero’s temporal incursion into the 23rd century creating the JJ-verse, likely at the start of the time war which resulted in the destruction of Romulus and Remus. This Academy series is a bit like the Voy episode Timeless, or a reboot of Living Witness starring the Doctor, or the future scenes from All Good Things. Star Trek prime timeline should be set in the early 25th century, not in a fantasy sci-fi cloud cuckoo land. Therefore, as the future is not yet written, by setting this new show in the Disco-verse alt future, it is technically neither canon or prime, merely a possible multiverse future of the prime Star Trek Universe which is still truly awaiting to be written and continued in a Legacy series.
I'm not a big fan of TNG, but I don't write essays trying to pretend it's not part of the canon Trek timeline.
 
I'm not a big fan of TNG, but I don't write essays trying to pretend it's not part of the canon Trek timeline.
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No yes, just no.
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Aren't you the guy who thought that doing "Kes as Phoenix" would make for a great Star Trek movie?
This storyline is *not* beyond the realms of possibility and would also be rather cool. Kes returned to screen canon back in the 00’s after her departure in the Star Trek: Voyager episode The Gift, where she helped cut 10k off the ships journey home. Unfortunately, Kes was mis written in a future episode called Fury: so having Kes return as a character similar to a Phoenix, as well as the X-Men character of the same name, in a new series or movie would be cool. Kes could now be in control of both her anger and nurturing nature, having lived past her 9 year life span becoming omnipotent with Q like powers, having ridden from the flames of subjugation and abuse via slavery with the Kazon, a rebound relationship with Neelix, and the experiences of other ‘mentors’ she spent time with during her mortal life on board Voyager, a sum of her experiences with Captain Janeway, The Doctor and Tom Paris in particular. Seven of Nine did have a beautiful episode with Kes, these scenes between Kes and Seven are probably some of the most important character interactions in modern Star Trek if you think about it?
 
But this Academy show is set in the *far* future of Star Trek, a future which includes the repercussions of Nero’s temporal incursion into the 23rd century creating the JJ-verse, likely at the start of the time war which resulted in the destruction of Romulus and Remus. This Academy series is a bit like the Voy episode Timeless, or a reboot of Living Witness starring the Doctor, or the future scenes from All Good Things. Star Trek prime timeline should be set in the early 25th century, not in a fantasy sci-fi cloud cuckoo land. Therefore, as the future is not yet written, by setting this new show in the Disco-verse alt future, it is technically neither canon or prime, merely a possible multiverse future of the prime Star Trek Universe which is still truly awaiting to be written and continued in a Legacy series.

The only proper response to this is a meme:
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But this Academy show is set in the *far* future of Star Trek, a future which includes the repercussions of Nero’s temporal incursion into the 23rd century creating the JJ-verse, likely at the start of the time war which resulted in the destruction of Romulus and Remus. This Academy series is a bit like the Voy episode Timeless, or a reboot of Living Witness starring the Doctor, or the future scenes from All Good Things. Star Trek prime timeline should be set in the early 25th century, not in a fantasy sci-fi cloud cuckoo land. Therefore, as the future is not yet written, by setting this new show in the Disco-verse alt future, it is technically neither canon or prime, merely a possible multiverse future of the prime Star Trek Universe which is still truly awaiting to be written and continued in a Legacy series.
Discovery's entire 5th season was dedicated to solving the mystery set up by TNG's 'The Chase'. Like they literally show the scene where the progenitors message is revealed. Discovery's season 3 episode 'Unification III' is a continuation of 'Unification I and II and they literally show Spock's speech about why he needs to help the romulans.

I mean whatever helps you sleep at night but its prime timeline. Deal with it.
 
Discovery's entire 5th season was dedicated to solving the mystery set up by TNG's 'The Chase'. Like they literally show the scene where the progenitors message is revealed. Discovery's season 3 episode 'Unification III' is a continuation of 'Unification I and II and they literally show Spock's speech about why he needs to help the romulans.

I mean whatever helps you sleep at night but its prime timeline. Deal with it.
The Progenitors exist in all timelines and multiverses, as they existed at the very origins of galactic creation, at the point in time where all corporeal perceived multiverses and temporal convergences began… including those of the Disco verse and other Nu-Trek spinoffs, such as JJ-Trek.
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In the far future. No matter how the universe unfolds in each particular multiverse, the messages of the Progenitors would still be pure and true wherever they were to be projected.
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However, should the universe begin to uncontrollably descend into chaos, disorder and self destruction, the Preservers would be dispatched with their Ark ships to help record, archive and preserve life throughout the galaxy.:p
 
Waiting for an actual trailer to tell me something about the story for the first season. This was definitely more of a teaser than a trailer.
 
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