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Star Wars:The Clone Wars S3......so far
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I wouldn't mind her surviving ROTS, but I can't see her just sitting around during the 20 something years of the Empire. I would love for her to survive only to fight Vader in perhaps The Duel 1.5.
I don't know what Ahsoka's fate is going to be. If she were to be killed, I can't see Anakin holding it together. Even for Padme. In ROTS, he doesn't strike me as someone mourning over a death though its clear he's still haunted by the events that happened with his mother's death. That is what's driving him to keep Padme safe.
Interesting bit on the commentary...Filoni said that he didn't see the Wookies having massive starships. That they would consider it going against their culture. But he liked the idea that they would have these private crews that would provide them transport off-world. Thus the reason we see Sugi the bounty hunter return.
Interesting bit on the commentary...Filoni said that he didn't see the Wookies having massive starships. That they would consider it going against their culture. But he liked the idea that they would have these private crews that would provide them transport off-world. Thus the reason we see Sugi the bounty hunter return.
I agree that it was an odd choice. I enjoyed the finale, but I wish they had used the Mortis two-parter or the Savage Opress episodes which packed more punch for the closers. I think the Wookiee episodes made for nicer mid-season fare.
If Ahsoka were to survive all the way until SWV:TESB, then some explanation, either retconny or otherwise and strained, of why Yoda's other hope is Leia, and not Ahsoka, would have to be given. Which is fine. I'm actually cool with Ahsoka surviving, no matter how much TESB and ROTJ might need to be retconned. I'm just sayin'.
By the way, the last hope stuff in STV and VI already needs to be retconned as is, since now we know that Ben knew about Leia being a Skywalker all along.
Maybe Ahsoka goes to Dagobah and Yoda tells her she needs to stay way, way, way out of the way, to assure preservation of the Jedi, while the Skywalkers duke it out, in case Luke can't turn Anakin back.
If Ahsoka buys it on screen in TCW, then that episode has the potential to be extraordinarily dramatic, and kids will be sobbing all over the world.
Another possibility: maybe Ahsoka will survive TCW and ROTS only to die in some accident before SWIV:ANH. This would spare us all some grief, while still taking care of the continuity problems in V and VI without the need for any further revision.
By the way, the last hope stuff in STV and VI already needs to be retconned as is, since now we know that Ben knew about Leia being a Skywalker all along.
Maybe Ahsoka goes to Dagobah and Yoda tells her she needs to stay way, way, way out of the way, to assure preservation of the Jedi, while the Skywalkers duke it out, in case Luke can't turn Anakin back.
If Ahsoka buys it on screen in TCW, then that episode has the potential to be extraordinarily dramatic, and kids will be sobbing all over the world.
Another possibility: maybe Ahsoka will survive TCW and ROTS only to die in some accident before SWIV:ANH. This would spare us all some grief, while still taking care of the continuity problems in V and VI without the need for any further revision.
The Mortis story would've been a very good season finale (but it was a 3-parter, wasn't it?).
^ Yeah it was and it was kind of like their sweeps episodes but I could see it working as a season finale too.
I'm not so sure about Ahsoka becoming a knight during the series run... 5 years on screen, it's limited to the 3 year Clone War, correct? I can't see a youngling becoming a Jedi Knight after 2 years + of being an apprentice.
Although, who knows? Maybe with lots of Jedi dying the ranks system moves quicker. I always really enjoyed how Obi-Wan and Anakin were generals in EpIII.
"My own council I will keep on who is ready." Yoda
Although, who knows? Maybe with lots of Jedi dying the ranks system moves quicker. I always really enjoyed how Obi-Wan and Anakin were generals in EpIII.
"My own council I will keep on who is ready." Yoda
I don't think Ahsoka will be elevated to Jedi Knight either. All Jedi Knights and Masters seemed to have the rank of "General" during the Clone Wars. Ahsoka I believe has the rank of Commander. Similar to Anakin when he was a Padawan in the micro-series.
Oy.
If the episode guide is any indication, it seems they did intend that to be Tarfful.
Except it didn't look like Tarfful from ROTS. It looked like Tarfful from the Republic Commando game, who has the wrong coloration. It should have been Merumeru.
It seemed clear to me that it was Tarfful. And that was reinforced (and nicely paid off) for me when Anakin and Ahsoka turn away at the end to reveal the unheard conversation that had been going on behind them... Windu, Yoda, Tarfful and Chewbacca.
It brought to mind ROTS, Yoda: "Go, I will. Good relations with the Wookiees, I have."
Yeah!
Because it would raise the question, where the heck was she during all the fighting?!?! There could be a fairy-tale explanation such as she was in some form of suspended animation (carbonite?) until Luke finds her. Or maybe she'd had more trouble with the Dark Side (I doubt she's been "fully cured" of that bite) and either hasn't been motivated to help the Rebels, or doesn't want to use the Force because anything might push her over the edge and has spent the past 20 years hiding out.
Yeah, it wouldn't really work for Ahsoka to be a motivation because there was never any indication that something recent had happened to Anakin that was a huge factor in his behavior. We need at least some line of dialogue like, "I can't let Padme die because of my inaction, after what happened with Ahsoka!"
Here's a possibility: end the series with the events of ROTS from Ahsoka's point of view. Just because we didn't see her doesn't mean she wasn't in the story. But if she's going to be in the story, then it does need to be established on screen and not left up to fan retcon. And that allows the opportunity for adding crucial scenes that carry over the foreshadowing of TCW - Anakin having an alliance with Tarkin, and definitely more on the influence of the Dark Side, which was very vague in ROTS. I'd like to see a more definite take on it, a la the Mortis arc, so we know exactly what the Dark Side did and how much of a factor it was. (I don't see any explanation besides mind control for Anakin murdering younglings - that's just too far outside the scope of his possible behavior.)
1. Leia is Anakin's daughter and Ahsoka is not.
2. Ahsoka has fallen to the Dark Side or is too vulnerable to it, to be depended on.
3. Maybe Yoda did mean Ahoska.
Just because Leia is force-sensitive doesn't mean she's interested in being a Jedi. She seemed to have a full time career as rebel leader at that point.
Essentially correct.
All too true.
Not sure about this.
Good.2. Ahsoka has fallen to the Dark Side or is too vulnerable to it, to be depended on.
3. Maybe Yoda did mean Ahoska.
Tuskens, humans, whatever. He's an equal opportunity offender.
I'm going off the TCM Anakin, who is too stable and sane to pull something like that without there being some V E R Y good explanation. I'm discounting the AOTC/ROTS Anakin, for whom the explanation is obvious - he was nuts for years and it's a wonder he didn't hack up kids long before now - but that's inconsistent with TCM and we need some ground rules or nothing makes any sense!
Good.2. Ahsoka has fallen to the Dark Side or is too vulnerable to it, to be depended on.
3. Maybe Yoda did mean Ahoska.
You don't like #1? I thought it was the most sensible. Anakin is the big-shot Chosen One, which makes his kids mini-Chosen Ones, too. Or something like that. If all they needed was some Jedi or other to take on Vader, why didn't Obi-Wan or Yoda do it themselves?
I suspect that next season and especially in season five (if it's the last one) we'll start to see Anakin get darker and going along the course we see him in Episode III. What's going to be interesting is to see him devolve from the heroic person we've seen him as so far. It's not really until he has his dream about Padme does he really start going off the wagon in Episode III.
I'm going off the TCM Anakin, who is too stable and sane to pull something like that without there being some V E R Y good explanation. I'm discounting the AOTC/ROTS Anakin, for whom the explanation is obvious - he was nuts for years and it's a wonder he didn't hack up kids long before now - but that's inconsistent with TCM and we need some ground rules or nothing makes any sense!
Good.2. Ahsoka has fallen to the Dark Side or is too vulnerable to it, to be depended on.
3. Maybe Yoda did mean Ahoska.
You don't like #1? I thought it was the most sensible. Anakin is the big-shot Chosen One, which makes his kids mini-Chosen Ones, too. Or something like that. If all they needed was some Jedi or other to take on Vader, why didn't Obi-Wan or Yoda do it themselves?
Obi wan did try in A New Hope, but sacrificed himself so Luke would leave on the Falcon.
-Chris
Obi-Wan's job was to protect Luke at all costs. The only way that he would engage Vader is if the later and the Emperor found out about Luke and where he was being hid. As for Yoda, his little battle against Palpatine made it clear that alone he was no match for the Dark Side.
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