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Star Wars Rebels Season Two (spoilers)

I finally watched all of season 1. I found most of it a little too tame in comparison to Clone Wars. But I thought that it was really starting to feel like Star Wars in the season finale. I'm looking forward to season 2, whenever I'm able to get around to watching it.

Kor
 
I posted an article upthread about the next series being Post ROTJ... personally I hope it's immediately Post-ROTJ showing what the Big Three were doing.
Either that or what original characters are doing post-ROTJ.* If Filoni and company stick around, I think there's a good chance there's some threads from Rebels that will continue into that show (as Clone Wars elements have recurred in Rebels.)

*With the caveat post-ROTJ could much closer to the era of TFA, or even during the sequel trilogy.
 
Yeah OK, that's Leia. I'm impressed at how they nailed her personality with just two lines of dialogue.
Remember this is a person who after shooting dead a stormtrooper, right between the eyes and brought before the Emperor's personal attack dog, he first reaction is to berate him for his impertinence. Then immediately being rescued from execution, she's not out of her cell 60 seconds before she starts critiquing her would-be rescuers, takes a gun off one of them and proceeds to rescue all four of them.

You know it's strange how it never occurred to me until I re-watched the OT a few years back that if any of the Skywalker twins takes after Anakin, it's Leia. Sure, Luke inherited a little of the mopeyness and the piloting skills, but it seems like Leia got *all* the attitude and brashness. Fortunately it's balanced by Padme's compassion and focused determination. Note how only a day or two after witnessing her planet's destruction, along with the death of her "father" and probably most everyone she ever knew, she takes time to comfort Luke for his loss.


Also, am I crazy or do those ships look very reminiscent of a certain ship in KotOR? I've noticed a number of KoTOR references creeping into canon for a few years now, even after the EU was officially retired.
Indeed...

There's a notion floating around that the planet where Rey finds Luke may be Rakata Prime. Aside from both featuring an ocean/archipelago environment dotted with ancient ruins built by force users, there's a galaxy map in the new Visual Dictionary in which the only two locations marked in the Unknown Regions are Starkiller base's PoA & "Rakata Prime". Now in the movie there's only two planets featured in the Unknown Regions: Starkiller Base and the planet where Luke is found...so...?
I know it's very circumstantial of course on both counts, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I know Filoni is a KoTOR fan and references have cropped a up few times in TCW, but it's not just him it seems. It's not really a spoiler so I won't code it as such, but the visual dictionary also mentioned that Kylo's funky lightsaber is based on an ancient design dating back *several thousand years* to the scourging of Malachor, (or something to that effect.)
Probably just one of the lorekeepers having a bit of fun, but I wonder if they're sidling up to making KoTOR canon? Or bits of it at least.
 
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^Planets can go by several names, especially very old and mysterious ones. Not that I buy into the theory, just that the name alone doesn't preclude the possibility.
 
I know Filoni is a KoTOR fan and references have cropped a up few times in TCW, but it's not just him it seems. It's not really a spoiler so I won't code it as such, but the visual dictionary also mentioned that Kylo's funky lightsaber is based on an ancient design dating back *several thousand years* to the scourging of Malachor, (or something to that effect.)
Probably just one of the lorekeepers having a bit of fun, but I wonder if they're sidling up to making KoTOR canon? Or bits of it at least.

They're prepping you for the next trilogy of films...
 
They're prepping you for the next trilogy of films...
Not the worst idea I've ever heard, but I'd prefer they do a TV show based in that general time-frame. Maybe a re-imagining/retelling of the Hyperspace Wars/Tales of the Jedi/Sith War saga. I always felt that the comics never did very well at conveying a passage of time.
The 'Golden Age of the Sith' is especially guilty of this since the war seems to be over almost as soon as it began (and ended on such a bizarrely up-beat note to boot.) I'd like to see it done again where the whole thing unfolds over the course of a generation, rather than the few weeks it made it seem like.

A direct adaptation of KoTOR is probably a bad idea as many of it's beats may seem a little too...familiar. Indeed, it's funny how so many people claim TFA's re-use of many of the tropes from ANH as a negative, while almost every positive review I've seen for KoTOR praises it for doing pretty much the same thing.
I mean it even opens on a Republic corvette being chased down by a (Sith) Imperial Destroyer, followed by an getaway via escape pod and ends (depending on your choices) with an award ceremony. Don't get me wrong, it brings a lot of new stuff to the table (as does TFA) but you can clearly spot the similarities both overt and in the subtext.
 
Personally, I super-hope the next series is based around:
Luke training the 'next' generation of Jedi and leading up to Ben's big turn to the dark side and massacre. It would be Luke-heavy, and fill in a newly minted major gap between the original and sequel trilogies. This would also help satisfy the butt-hurt fans felt about Luke being barely in TFA.
I can't really see them going that route right now. I doubt we're going to get to much detailed stuff about anything involving Luke until at least after Ep. VIII. There's still a lot we don't know, and I can't see them revealing stuff that would be that important to the movie arc in something that isn't a main saga movie.
If the theories about Rey are true and she is Luke's daughter they'd pretty much have to involve her too, and I can't see that happening before the movies give us that answer.
Yeah OK, that's Leia. I'm impressed at how they nailed her personality with just two lines of dialogue.
Remember this is a person who after shooting dead a stormtrooper, right between the eyes and brought before the Emperor's personal attack dog, he first reaction is to berate him for his impertinence. Then immediately being rescued from execution, she's not out of her cell 60 seconds before she starts critiquing her would-be rescuers, takes a gun off one of them and proceeds to rescue all four of them.
Yeah, that was a great scene.
There's a notion floating around that the planet where Rey finds Luke may be Rakata Prime. Aside from both featuring an ocean/archipelago environment dotted with ancient ruins built by force users, there's a galaxy map in the new Visual Dictionary in which the only two locations marked in the Unknown Regions are Starkiller base's PoA & "Rakata Prime". Now in the movie there's only two planets featured in the Unknown Regions: Starkiller Base and the planet where Luke is found...so...?
I know it's very circumstantial of course on both counts, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I know Filoni is a KoTOR fan and references have cropped a up few times in TCW, but it's not just him it seems. It's not really a spoiler so I won't code it as such, but the visual dictionary also mentioned that Kylo's funky lightsaber is based on an ancient design dating back *several thousand years* to the scourging of Malachor, (or something to that effect.)
Probably just one of the lorekeepers having a bit of fun, but I wonder if they're sidling up to making KoTOR canon? Or bits of it at least.
Actually according to Wookiepedia, there was already a reference to Malachor in TCW, and it's got several other references at the bottom of the page, so the name was already canon before The Visual Dictionary.
 
I was just stating the most recent examples I've come across. I'm well aware there were several KoTOR references in TCW. A Mandalorian crusader helmet, Revan being considered for a cameo, the look and layout of Bane's tomb being clearly based on Korriban map from both KoTOR & SWTOR and of course the web-spitty things from the Kashyyyk level were set to show up in one of the unfinished "bad batch" centric episodes.

Besides, a namedrop is one thing. This mention seems to present Malachor in a context broadly consistent with the event from the game. It's a much more of a direct reference, for lack of a better term.
 
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I honestly didn't realize there were that many KOTOR references in The Clone Wars. Have we ever gotten definitive answers about whether any of the stuff set thousands of years before the movies is canon? They seem to have borrowed quite a bit of stuff from that material, and most of it is so far removed from the main Prequel-Original Trilogy-Sequel timeline that they don't really effect it either way.
 
George once said the light side male game was Canon. But that im sure applies just as much as the old novels now.
 
I honestly didn't realize there were that many KOTOR references in The Clone Wars. Have we ever gotten definitive answers about whether any of the stuff set thousands of years before the movies is canon? They seem to have borrowed quite a bit of stuff from that material, and most of it is so far removed from the main Prequel-Original Trilogy-Sequel timeline that they don't really effect it either way.

It's a bit of a grey area at the moment.

On the one hand, the official line is that only the movies, the two CG animated shows and the other media produced *after* the Disney buy-out are considered canon.

However, the SWTOR is still an ongoing concern and that is pretty much a direct follow-on from KoTOR 1 & 2. Both of which were somewhat of an outgrowth of the old 'Tales of the Jedi' comics (IIRC Bastila's character was originally intended to be Vima Sunrider, hence the battle meditation thing) and as such makes references throughout. The MMO is still very much active with new material still coming out, so...it's a bit unclear on which side of the canon line it all falls. Hence the occasional reference in actual canon being of some interest.

Of course since these are role playing games with multiple plot paths and endings, even if they were canon, they'd have to pick one for each.

Traditionally in SW games (mostly just the KoTOR & Jedi Knight games really), the "light side" ending is always considered to be the canon one. As such, prior to the shelving of the EU, the accepted version of events were that the protagonist of the first game was a white male while the Outcast in the second game was a white female, both of whom picked the light side ending to their respective games.
Full disclosure: I'm a bit fuzzy on whether there were alt endings for KoTOR 2 at all since from what little I can recall, it was a bit of a confusing mess.
 
If it's part of the pre-2014 Expanded Universe, then it isn't cannnnnnnon anymore.

Except for The Clone Wars.

But KoToR et al take place tens of thousands of years ago and have no direct bearing on the current movies, so I don't see any reason not to include them in your personal cannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnon.

Kor
 
^Which is what I already said. Yet, a *slight* ambiguity exists nonetheless.

And it's more like three and a half thousand. Aside from darkhorse's 'Dawn of the Jedi' line that got cut short with the buy-out, I don't think any stories were told about anything earlier than 5000 BBY, give or take. Even in the old EU, there's a massive twety thousand year hole of narrative real estate between the founding of the Old Republic and the first encounter with the old Sith Empire.
 
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