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Star Trek Voyager: The Eternal Tide by Kirsten Beyer

I'd be pretty bumbed out personally if Janeway was resurrected, but I'll hold of judgement untill we know more.

I will say this though, if Janeway pops up and magically replaces Captain Eden who will decide to leave the fleet because she has found her long lost origins in the DQ.... that's one hell of a cope-out I hope Beyer won't do. It would be like Sisko coming back from the Prophets and saying 'That was fun, now gimme my office back'.
 
I don't know, that might work for me. Depends on the specific storylines. It was often, and I believe correctly, pointed out by the pro-Janeway crowd that the "there's no place for her in modern TrekLit!" argument was pretty stupid. There is a place she could occupy; there's a female admiral running the fleet. If Janeway hadn't died, she could very well have ended up there.

I love me some long-term, high-stakes epics, where characters grown and change and sometimes die. But there's an argument to be made that sticking close-ish to the TV show is a good idea for tie-in fiction.

It all depends on how well it's written, and Beyer's earned some benefit of the doubt, I think.
 
Did Beyer bring back Janeway?

Yes, yes she did and all rejoiced for the chosen one had returned and Ms Beyer brought her back in such a way that both sides on the debate on whether she should return said sorry to each other and realized that debating ad nasium over her death and eventual return for the past four and a half years was pretty fucking pointless. ;)

My favorite part was the free slice of pie with every novel purchased.

I got pumpkin. :)
 
Did Beyer bring back Janeway?

Yes, yes she did and all rejoiced for the chosen one had returned and Ms Beyer brought her back in such a way that both sides on the debate on whether she should return said sorry to each other and realized that debating ad nasium over her death and eventual return for the past four and a half years was pretty fucking pointless. ;)

My favorite part was the free slice of pie with every novel purchased.

I got pumpkin. :)

I was hoping for cheese and onion, but it appears to be a fundamental difference between us in England and the Americans that they do not do savory pies.

I see this as an unbridgeable gulf...

;)
 
Cheese and onion pie??!!? That's it! Get to the back of the line England! No, no, behind Canada! That's right...now stay there. We've had enough out of you.
 
Yes, yes she did and all rejoiced for the chosen one had returned and Ms Beyer brought her back in such a way that both sides on the debate on whether she should return said sorry to each other and realized that debating ad nasium over her death and eventual return for the past four and a half years was pretty fucking pointless. ;)

My favorite part was the free slice of pie with every novel purchased.

I got pumpkin. :)

I was hoping for cheese and onion, but it appears to be a fundamental difference between us in England and the Americans that they do not do savory pies.

I see this as an unbridgeable gulf...

;)

Cheese and onion pie??!!? That's it! Get to the back of the line England! No, no, behind Canada! That's right...now stay there. We've had enough out of you.

As I said, unbridgeable. But then...

I'm as American as fortune cookies but I think cheese and onion pie sounds awesome.

How about (for you carnivores out there) steak and kidney pie ? Or chicken and mushroom...

;)
 
I was just watching All Good Things and it occurred to me that Picard died at the end of AGT; he died 3 times, in fact! Just before the future Enterprise explodes, Q pretty much tells Picard that he is about to die. After the ship explodes, Picard exists in a reality outside of normal space time created by Q where they talk before Q sends him back to what Picard considers the present. Actually, Q sends him back to a moment days before the present.

The entirety of the events of AGT up until Picard's death was Q testing Picard and teaching him a lesson. Perhaps the Q are doing the same thing with Janeway

So, if Q could do that with Picard, why can't he do the same with Janeway? Are fans aggrevated that all the events in the TNG finale never happened? Does that prevent them from watching the movies and reading the relaunch novels? So if, IF, Janeway is to return, wouldn't saying that doing so is silly or undermines the drama of her original death be true in the case of Picard and AGT as well? Did Q returning Picard to his original time undercut his sacrifice and death in all 3 time periods?
 
Janeway has to return. It is simply not Voyager without her. I have been deeply saddened by her death even though I know good and well it is only fiction. she is the heart and sould of the series and nobody stays dead in Sci Fi.

I cannot understand why anyone would want her to stay dead. she "is" the series. Killing her off forever would be even dumber than killing off Kirk. She is my favorite Captain of them all. I know I am in the minority on that one, but I dearly love her character. No one would be happer than me if she was brought back.


As for the person that says it would hurt the series credibility to bring her back. No way man. They brought Spock back from the dead as a child on the Genesis planet and he just so happened to age PERFECTLY to the exact same age that he was when he died after his rebirth. If Trek can survive something that crazy, how will bringing Janeway back hurt? It won't, people love her. I have never talked to a Star Trek fan that doesn't love Janeway. Also, G already saved Picard once when he was hit with a plasma gun in the chest and his artificial heart stopped. The precedence has been established three times now. Picard, Kirk, Spock, all brought back from the dead and nobody left in droves



People should be demanding that they bring her back. The books aren't any fun without her. I still buy them because I am a completist, but I do not enjoy them. If they bring her back, I will finally be able to read the other Voyager books again knowing that she is back. Otherwise, I may have to give up on this series. NO ONE loves Voyager more than I do. I like it more than any other television program ever recorded.


Stories suck when the main good guy is killed off. Look how the final Matrix movie TANKED after they killed of Neo and Trinity. You simply do not kill off the main chracter, even doubly so when that character is a good guy.
 
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