Star Trek: The Future Begins is TINO
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Well, alluded to is a little different than in the film. That's just like with Saruman who doesn't appear in Return of the King and for a lot of people who had never read the Rings trilogy it was like, well what happened to the central villain of the last film.
please start printing T-Shirts and Mugs.Please, don't get me started on the flea bag show that Moore created. Yes, Moore's Galactica is GINO.
I find it really odd that TINO and GINO tend to be very critically acclaimed and succeeded far beyond the dreams of their detractors. Then again, GINO wouldn't have been possible without Trek, and TINO wouldn't have been possible without GINO, either.
I'm gonna go watch AINO, Addams In Name Only.
I'm gonna go watch AINO, Addams In Name Only.
BTW, they didn't actually "enter" the black hole in Tomorrow is Yesterday, they slingshotted around it (or out of it).
In the film, they were swallowed by the black hole and apparently "spit out" at another time and place (luckily within the same quadrant or so).
Now for a reference from another film:
And of course, it's implied that V'Ger was sent into the past as well, so there's your crazy acting black hole.
In the film, they were swallowed by the black hole and apparently "spit out" at another time and place (luckily within the same quadrant or so).
Now for a reference from another film:
Willard Decker and James T. Kirk said:
And of course, it's implied that V'Ger was sent into the past as well, so there's your crazy acting black hole.
Well, this is mostly elitist bunk. TOS was a middle-brow, adventure show that was aimed at the average viewer. One only has to get a copy of the show's bible (or read "inside Star Trek") to understand this. The science in TOS is shaky at best, using concepts thought to be theoretical possibilities at the time but have been shown to be improbable or out-right wrong with the passage of time (transporters, warp drive, artificial gravity/gravity plating, sling-shot time-travel, etc.). You should read "The Physics of Star Trek" among others.
Having said all that, TOS is very enjoyable as are many of the spin-offs. But let's not be so proud of our baby that we overlook its many flaws. All the lame-ass technobabble in the current movie is right in line with all the lame-ass technobabble in all of ST's previous incarnations.
Maybe it's because I teach theatre, but, as opposed to being TINO, this ST is very recognizably ST in much the same way that Olivier, Zefferelli, and Brannagh all have directed different but recognizable Hamlets. That this ST is not your personal cup of tea is no fault of the current producer/director.
One last thing, before making such dread announcements as "Star Trek: The Future Begins (ST:TFB) or ST:11 is TINO, or Trek in Name Only", you may want to check in with your fellow Trekkies on this board. The overwhelming majority of us embrace this movie as a vital relaunch of the franchise. Of course we have problems with some aspects of it (including the spotty science and lack of a decent antagonist); we're Trekkies, for God's sake
. But by and large, the reception has been positive. I'm afraid that most of us feel that this ST may not be the ST we were used to, but it is ST. You are, of course, entitled to an opposing opinion.
And yet it lasted longer than the original
Orginal september of 78- april of 79
The initial episode of the series was broadcast on September 17, 1978. However, approximately 60 minutes into the first episode, the broadcast was interrupted for a significant period—almost an hour—by the announcement of the signing of the Egyptian-Israeli Camp David Accords, deeply marring the broadcast as much of the initial episode was not seen. During the eight months after the pilot was broadcast, 17 original episodes of the series were aired (five of them two-part shows), totaling 24 hours of broadcasting. Citing declining ratings and cost overruns, ABC cancelled Battlestar Galactica in April, its last episode "The Hand of God" premiering on April 29, 1979.
1980 (Spinoff series does not count as the original)
During the autumn of 1979, ABC executives met with Galactica's creator Glen A. Larson to consider a relaunch of the series. A suitable concept was needed to draw viewers, and it was decided that the arrival of the Colonial Fleet at contemporary Earth would be the storyline. A new television movie entitled Galactica 1980 was rushed into production. Again, it was decided this new version of Galactica would be made into a weekly series. Despite the early success of the première, the show failed to achieve the popularity of the original series and was canceled after only ten episodes.
Moore's Reimagining
Despite attempts to revive the series over the years, none came to fruition until it was reimagined in 2003 by Universal Television as a miniseries. Sky1 and the Sci-Fi Channel, with Ronald D. Moore and David Eick, were the creative forces behind it. Edward James Olmos stepped into the role of Commander Adama. A weekly new Galactica series followed, premiering on Sky1 in the UK and Ireland in October 2004, and on Sci-Fi in the U.S. in January 2005.
[edit] Miniseries
Main article: Battlestar Galactica (TV miniseries)
In December 2003, the American Sci-Fi Channel broadcast a three-hour miniseries that reimagined Battlestar Galactica. This miniseries was so successful that Sci-Fi opted to develop this new version of Galactica into a television series.
[edit] Television Series
Main article: Battlestar Galactica (2004 TV series)
The new series first aired in the UK and Ireland on Sky1 in October 2004. The series debuted in North America on the Sci-Fi Channel in January 2005. Featuring most of the original cast from the mini-series, Edward James Olmos returns as Commander William Adama and Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin. Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, James Callis, Grace Park and Tricia Helfer round out the original cast.[8]
An edited version of the "pilot" miniseries was broadcast on NBC—a corporate sibling of the Sci-Fi Channel—on January 9, 2005, five days before the Sci-Fi series premiere.[citation needed] NBC also aired three selected first-season episodes to promote the show in advance of the second-season premiere in July 2005. Three and a half seasons aired on Sci-Fi and Sky One between 2005 and 2008. Owing to production delays caused by the 2007-2008 Writers Guild strike, the fourth season was split into two parts, with a 7 month hiatus in between. The second half of the season began airing January 16, 2009. The fourth season will also air on Universal HD beginning in July 2009. A two-hour film (set during the show's second season), Battlestar Galactica: Razor, aired on Sci-Fi on Saturday November 24, 2007, as a prelude to the fourth season.
The series has won widespread acclaim among many mainstream non-genre publications. Time magazine,[9] Rolling Stone magazine[10] and New York Newsday[11] named it the best show on television in 2005. Other publications like The New York Times,[12] The New Yorker[13] and National Review[14] also gave the show positive reviews.
The show has received a Peabody Award for overall excellence, several Emmy Awards for Visual Effects, and Emmy nominations for Writing and Directing. Time magazine has named it one of the 100 Best TV Shows of All Time.[15]
[edit] Webisodes: The Resistance
Main article: Battlestar Galactica: The Resistance
The first set of webisodes were a series of shorts produced to promote the third season of the show. They filled in some of the events between the second and third seasons and featured some of the main cast. These webisodes were made so as not to reveal what would happen in the beginning of season three. Season 3 was also set up so that missing the webisodes would not leave a viewer confused about the story.
Each of the ten webisodes was approximately three minutes in length, and they were released two times a week leading up to the U.S. Season 3 premiere.
[edit] Webisodes: Razor Flashbacks
Main article: Battlestar Galactica: Razor Flashbacks
The Razor Flashbacks were a small series of seven webisodes set during William Adama's fighter pilot days during the later stages of the First Cylon War. They were released on the Internet as "webisodes" leading up to Razor's release. They are now available on the DVD of Battlestar Galactica: Razor and some are inserted into the extended cut of the movie on the DVD (as opposed to none on the shorter version which aired on television). The installments that didn't make the final cut include 1, 2, & the latter half of 7.
[edit] Razor (TV Movie)
Main article: Battlestar Galactica: Razor
Battlestar Galactica: Razor is a television movie produced and broadcast in the gap between Seasons 3 and 4. Razor is also technically the first two episodes of Season 4 though it chronicles events on Battlestar Pegasus in two time periods, both of which are "in the past" with respect to the Season 4 continuity. The "present day" framing scenes are set during Lee Adama's command, in the latter half of Season 2, while "flashback" scenes depict Helena Cain's command in the period between the Cylon attack and the reunion with Galactica in the second season episode Pegasus. Also during the extended episode the Razor Flashbacks, which were previously released as webisodes, were integrated into the movie but only several were inserted into the shortened television cut. It aired in the United States and Canada on November 24 and in Britain and Ireland on December 18, 2007. An expanded version of the movie was released on DVD on December 4, 2007.
[edit] Webisodes: The Face of the Enemy
Main article: Battlestar Galactica: The Face of the Enemy
In late May 2008, a set of 10 webisodes were announced to be in the works which will be released during the 7 month hiatus between episodes 12 and 13.[16] The web series premiered on December 12, 2008 on SciFi.com. The webisodes are also available to view on Hulu.com, the iTunes Store and on DirecTV's OnDemand service. Canadians are able to view them on spacecast.com/bsg.[17]
[edit] The Plan (TV Movie)
Main article: Battlestar Galactica: The Plan
On August 7, 2008 Sci-Fi Channel officially announced the production of a two-hour TV movie which was originally supposed to air after the final episode of Season 4. It has since been rescheduled to air sometime in November 2009. Written by Jane Espenson and directed by Edward James Olmos, The Plan storyline begins before the attack on the 12 colonies and will show events mainly from the perspective of two Cylon agents.[18] Confirmed cast members include Olmos, Michael Trucco, Aaron Douglas and Dean Stockwell.[19] Tricia Helfer, Grace Park, Rick Worthy, Matthew Bennett, Callum Keith Rennie, Michael Hogan and Rekha Sharma will also feature.[20] The movie began production on September 8, 2008.[20]
[edit] Caprica
Main article: Caprica (TV series)
Caprica is a television series, set to premiere on Sci-Fi in 2010, described as "television's first science fiction family saga". It was originally a 2-hour back door pilot for a possible weekly television series but on December 2, 2008 Sci-Fi gave the go-ahead to expand the project into a full series. Caprica will be set on the fictional planet Caprica around fifty years before the events depicted in the 2004 reimagined series. The show will revolve around two families, the Adamas and the Graystones, the building of the Cylons, and the beginnings of the first Cylon War.
The pilot is directed by Jeffrey Reiner (Friday Night Lights), and stars Eric Stoltz, Esai Morales, Paula Malcomson and Polly Walker.[21] The pilot was released on DVD on April 21, 2009.[22]
Yep Moore's was the lesser series... Oh wait no it wasn't...
To get completely off track, I liked aspects of Moore's Galactica from the perspective that it was different. It was dark and depressing, and more depressing with each episode. However, it should have been named something else other than Battlestar Galactica, because it was an insult to the fans of BSG. By the way, you forgot to mention that Larson/Universal are planning a new movie based on the 78-79 series.
can you please write that stuff over in, like, the English language?
it IS alluded to. much as it pains you, you might want to re-watch that part.
Which he has been doing for decades and no one is buying. That's why I didn't mention it.
Really the show the way Larson did it didn't get past 27 episodes. One episode more than a real full season (26) And btw pal I AM a fan of OLD BSG. I was a fan of NEW BSG and I don't feel pissed on. Please, Speak ONLY for yourself, you'll live a much happier life.
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BTW the biggest OLD BSG Supporter Richard Hatch.... HAD A REOCCURRING ROLE IN NEW BSG.....
Really the show the way Larson did it didn't get past 27 episodes. One episode more than a real full season (26) And btw pal I AM a fan of OLD BSG. I was a fan of NEW BSG and I don't feel pissed on. Please, Speak ONLY for yourself, you'll live a much happier life.
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BTW the biggest OLD BSG Supporter Richard Hatch.... HAD A REOCCURRING ROLE IN NEW BSG.....
Thank you, I appreciate the link. Very funny!
"Insult to the fans". Baloney. The original BSG is barely watchable. Even at the time, starved for TV sci-fi, I thought, Wow, this is lame. Talk about spotty science, etc. NuBSG took the original concept and made it into riveting Television. This is hardly an insult. And, once again, nuBSG was embraced by an overwhelming majority of the fans of BSG classic.
Your arguments are always going to be suspect if your main premise remains as faulty as this.
Frankly, I think you could say the same thing in pre-Abrams Trek, too. You could tell what was Berman's, what was Behr's, what was Coto's, what was Coon's Trek. That's what I love about the franchise as a whole, all these wonderful interpretations as to what Trek could do with sci-fi!
And his own comic. If Hatch had to be converted, the BSG franchise made sure that they showed their gratitude for his endorsement. Give me Hatch over Dirk Benedict any day
I am a fan of BSG and I wasn't insulted. Those who were insulted by a different view of BSG (ie Fanamentalist) need a severe attitude adjustment.
Or deserve to be insulted for not lightening the hell up.
Exactly. I'm also a comic geek so reboots have become a way of life for me
. Seigel/Schuster, Weisinger, Schwartz, Byrne/Carlin, etc., have all produced different Supermen but each one is recognizably Superman. I have liked some more than others but (with rare exception ), I would never call one SINO.I'm reserving that for "Smallville"
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