Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 4x10 - "Tomorrow's Enterprise"

[Ricky Spanish]

It should have looked like it did on SNW...dang it

Why do you task me?

 

[Ricky Spanish]

I admit I haven't seen that episode but just because DS9 had a bad idea doesn't justify using it again. it sounds bad. i'll watch the ds9 episode later when i have time

It was a rather good episode. Portraying a human as being human.

“Take Me Out to the Holosuite”. In case you’re interested.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

I admit I haven't seen that episode but just because DS9 had a bad idea doesn't justify using it again. it sounds bad.

It's perfectly normal human behaviour. This is how real people are.

 

[Rose Harper]

I'm against all alcohol, but even I might see how an engineer could get depressed after seeing his beloved SNW ship get refit into a 1960s cardboard aesthetic.

Retire that one.

 

[Yistaan]

It's perfectly normal human behaviour. This is how real people are.

I've heard differently on how Federation humans have a more evolved sensibility. To be fair Lily claimed that was ******** based on how Picard himself was acting at the time. Still.

 

[Mudd]

I've heard differently on how Federation humans have a more evolved sensibility.

You heard wrong.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

I've heard differently on how Federation humans have a more evolved sensibility. To be fair Lily claimed that was ******** based on how Picard himself was acting at the time. Still.

Lily was right. People dont change. Sure they arent racist, sexist and homophobic to other humans anymore. But theyre still humans.

 

[Rose Harper]

I like Quinn as Scotty and it's ironic that I got blasted for suggesting that maybe Montalban was cast too old as Khan a day or so ago and now the actor age against character age has come up again

That's not irony

I like Quinn as Scotty and it's ironic that I got blasted for suggesting that maybe Montalban was cast too old as Khan a day or so ago and now the actor age against character age has come up again.

Now this is irony

 

[Turtletrekker]

I've heard differently on how Federation humans have a more evolved sensibility.

That's something that humans tell themselves to make them feel better about the things they do. Sort of like religious beliefs in a way.

 

[Ghouleddie74]

Federation bigwigs: "We have a more evolved sensibility."

Also Federation bigwigs: "Planting a bomb at the center of Qo'noS and General Order 24 are also perfectly acceptable things we might do."

 

[Yistaan]

Federation bigwigs: "We have a more evolved sensibility."

Also Federation bigwigs: "Planting a bomb at the center of Qo'noS and General Order 24 are also perfectly acceptable things we might do."

Now there was a good century between those 2 paragraphs where the Federation, uh, evolved even more.

 

[Ricky Spanish]

Now there was a good century between those 2 paragraphs where the Federation, uh, evolved even more.

Sisko poisoned whole worlds to hunt down one person and suffered no repercussions from it. There was no evolution there.

 

[Yistaan]

No wonder Sisko's face isn't even shown by the far future.

Back to Scotty, not only was what he did immature but it injured Spock. He should've suffered more repercussions than he did. If he HAD to do such a stunt, it should've been on leave time off starfleet property

 

[Ricky Spanish]

Now there was a good century between those 2 paragraphs where the Federation, uh, evolved even more.

Janeway also executed someone who had done nothing wrong.

 

[Ghouleddie74]

There's also the virus that Section 31 was trying to use to commit genocide against the Founders of the Dominion, and Sloan and his lieutenants weren't the only people in the Federation who knew about using Odo as an unknowing Trojan horse to kill his own people. Starfleet and the Federation are often only as good as they have to be.

 

[Ricky Spanish]

It should have looked like it did on SNW...dang it

God, I hate when a good comeback doesn't show up later in the day!

"It wouldn't have fit on the Enterprise-D!"

 

[Yistaan]

The Section 31 changeling genocide was bad but the Federation was near annihilation from the war and if THAT'S the red line that needs to be crossed before they toss aside their morals, I don't think it should be held against them that much.

Taking it back to Scotty and Declan Milder, the transporter petty revenge was still uncalled for. Now if Declan Milder had orbitally bombarded a dozen worlds, implanted Ceti eels into the workers at a Starfleet medical facility, and vented Runa the dog into space, then if Scotty in a fit of rage decided to use the transporter to turn Declan into a misshapen blob, you probably wouldn't blame him even though it violates countless ethical rules etc.

 

[Ricky Spanish]

Taking it back to Scotty and Declan Milder, the transporter petty revenge was still uncalled for.

It is just two competitors enjoying the competition. That is what drives a lot of humanity. One-upmanship.

 

[indranee]

No idea. I do know that I found nothing in that storyline or Quinto's performance of it any more persuasive or moving that Princess Leia watching her record collection blow up in the first Star Wars. Flat action melodrama. So it holds no weight for me.

SNW Spock is a rounded, surprising, sometimes comic character with some nuance; Peck is a more interesting actor than Quinto.

I do agree that Peck is much more versatile and rounded as you put it. I do remember ONE scene in the first JJ movie where Quinto was sitting and there was a look on his face that was utterly heartbreaking -- at least, I found it to be so -- as he was narrating (in a voiceover) the loss of his mother and his world. I did find that touching, perhaps because I have lost my entire family. I get grief.
Btw, we are comparing a few action movies (which is pretty much what the JJ-verse is) to a TV show, barely 10 episodes notwithstanding. So I don't know if that's a fair comparison.

 

[The Green Monster]

God, I hate when a good comeback doesn't show up later in the day!

"It wouldn't have fit on the Enterprise-D!"

Yes. And the Discovery's turbolift system definitely wouldn't either