Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x09 - "Subspace Rhapsody"

[Ridcully]

Personally I really do not like musicals...
But I love how they made it work for this episode.
Next episode is probally a rather grim one!

SNW really is a super show!
And I just love how it all looks.
The settings are great, the actors are great together!

The stories are interesting.
And I love the look of this Enterprise a great deal!
Perfect blend of old and refit!

 

[Sci]

Throughout this series, I've felt bad for Chapel, knowing that she's doomed to spend years pining for Spock during the TOS/TAS era (assuming they don't seriously diverge from canon). However, after watching this episode, now it almost feels like karmic retribution for breaking his heart in the first place, though I admit I feel kind of petty for having that thought.

I mean, let's see where this goes yet. Obviously they've broken up now, but who knows how they'll feel and where they'll be next season? For all we know, they may become genuinely platonic friends after they've had time to forgive each other for not being the person the other imagined them to be.

 

[NCC-73515]

I love 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, but I never took that scene as the ship or station dancing in space.

The Enterprise and both Klingon ships, the way they spin around during the song, certainly look far more dancelike than the 2001 scene you are referring to.

I half expected Dead Or Alive to play while those ships were spinning...

Like a record, baby
Right round, round, round

2001 did a better waltz than Kirk and Una

 

[Australis]

Rent is almost 30 years old. Its not a contemporary musical. As shocking as that is to me to say, its true.

You should check out what Lindsay Ellis has to say about Rent on YT

Never forget that according to VOY there's such a thing as Klingon pop and metal music. So yeah, Klingons do more than sing just battle songs and operas.

And LDS. Klingon acid punk?

 

[Australis]

Oh, just one more thing.

The octave dip in "I'm the X" is utterly badass.

Damn straight!

 

[Sci]

That was really childish,

Nope.

Also: "Childish?" This coming from the guy who sings the praises of a season of PIC whose plot sounds like an eight-year-old playing with his toys?

This board tends to give out 10s for everything, even Discovery, but I think this episode will also play well with the larger current Trek fanbase. The majority of them seem like the types that would enjoy Rent and contemporary 'musicals' like it.

1) Rent is over a quarter-century old. It's not a contemporary musical. It is as old today as Hair and 1776 were when Rent premiered.

2) Rent has its problems, but it is still one of the greatest musicals of all time.

3) I have been a fan of both musicals and of Star Trek for many decades, and I have often been frustrated by the way fans of one often reject the other quite unfairly and unthinkingly. I love seeing these two fandoms start to come together.

4) You do realize that Star Trek: Discovery co-star Anthony Rapp played Mark in the original Broadway cast of Rent, right? And that Wilson Cruz played Angel in subsequent productions? (Honestly it's a shame they didn't do a musical episode of Discovery!)

Rent is almost 30 years old. Its not a contemporary musical. As shocking as that is to me to say, its true.

One of the worst feelings of "God I'm old" I ever had was telling my 14-year-old niece that she should give Alanis Morrissette's album Jagged Little Pill a listen because it really helped me through my teen years, only to be told that she wasn't interested in vintage music.

 

[Okmyx]

Nope.

Also: "Childish?" This coming from the guy who sings the praises of a season of PIC whose plot sounds like an eight-year-old playing with his toys?



1) Rent is over a quarter-century old. It's not a contemporary musical. It is as old today as Hair and 1776 were when Rent premiered.

2) Rent has its problems, but it is still one of the greatest musicals of all time.

3) I have been a fan of both musicals and of Star Trek for many decades, and I have often been frustrated by the way fans of one often reject the other quite unfairly and unthinkingly. I love seeing these two fandoms start to come together.

4) You do realize that Star Trek: Discovery co-star Anthony Rapp played Mark in the original Broadway cast of Rent, right? And that Wilson Cruz played Angel in subsequent productions? (Honestly it's a shame they didn't do a musical episode of Discovery!)



One of the worst feelings of "God I'm old" I ever had was telling my 14-year-old niece that she should give Alanis Morrissette's album Jagged Little Pill a listen because it really helped me through my teen years, only to be told that she wasn't interested in vintage music.

When I first read 1984 that year was so far in the future I couldn't imagine what my life would be like then....

 

[Trekker4747]

Listening to the soundtrack going into work this morning was delightful. I may love this episode more now.

 

[Mudd]

The Chapel/Spock thing has a lot of room to run, yet.

 

[cooleddie74]

You might have been looking . . . um . . . elsewhere?

I mean, my attention was always squarely on the Fatih of the Heart...

 

[Trekker4747]

Was this a genuine mistake or the result of re-cropping the scene for 16x9 television?

 

[Captain Jollydark]

I mean, let's see where this goes yet. Obviously they've broken up now, but who knows how they'll feel and where they'll be next season? For all we know, they may become genuinely platonic friends after they've had time to forgive each other for not being the person the other imagined them to be.

I realized that maybe part of this has to do with the fact that Boimler, when he catches her in the lift in Those Old Scientists, says he's read everything about Spock, his family, his relationships with the crew of the Enterprise (presumably the bromaniticals with McCoy and Kirk) but he doesn't mention her at all. She is not in Spock's future. Boimler doesn't even catch on there's something between the two of them until she says "it's me, I'm the reason." Maybe this colors her thinking about her own future in relation to Spock. She knows she's not part of it, not longterm.

 

[Set Harth]

When I first read 1984 that year was so far in the future I couldn't imagine what my life would be like then....

If only it had been titled 2020.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Was this a genuine mistake or the result of re-cropping the scene for 16x9 television?

Enterprise was always 16:9, so I'd say it's like that quick shot of the production guy in the left aide of the screen when Kirk steps out of the shuttle at Starfleet HQ in TMP. Just a quick oops.

 

[cooleddie74]

Or "Jeans Guy" from the background of that one episode of The Mandalorian.

 

[Discovery McDiscoveryFace]

It would be kind of hilarious if it turns out that Klingon opera is actually just boy band/K-Pop. Watch DS9 now and think about that every time Worf waxes nostalgic for Klingon opera!!!

Sadly, I think it has been shown. I remember there being a scene where Worf gets a four-armed pianist to play some.

 

[cooleddie74]

"Aktuh and Melota."

 

[Set Harth]

Or "Jeans Guy" from the background of that one episode of The Mandalorian.

I never noticed that!

 

[Trekker4747]

Sadly, I think it has been shown. I remember there being a scene where Worf gets a four-armed pianist to play some.

We've seen/heard quite a bit of Klingon opera. It sounds glorious and honorable.

 

[fireproof78]

I never noticed that!

I believe it was in Season 2. Fans obsessively posted about it and he was edited out.