Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x05 - "Charades"

[Captain Jollydark]

I have to say the bacon "joke" was the one thing that really rankled me in this episode.

Bacon was my trigger honestly. Also I developed fibroids related to too much soy! But I too have squick re: the copious leather goods Vulcans in this iteration wear, and (as I noted in another post) eating anything prepared or cooked on the same surface as meat. I'm very careful with my friends who are practicing vegetarians. Because I respect the reasons even if I no longer follow them. Also I have many life long vegetarians friends who say they would eat (or try) lab grown meat because the animals aren't slaughtered. I have mad respect for the practice.

 

[Charles Phipps]

From a person hailing from a “meat culture” in Kentucky, I should note there’s “meat” that is meat cooked and then there is “meat” that is prepared, seasoned, and served as an art form. Pike may not be quite as good at it as Sisko but I fully presume that the bacon being served in Pike’s kitchen is more than the straight out of the Kroger isle and on a pan kind as well. And yes, I’m assuming that the meat is ethical either way due to the impracticality of mass food storage in the 23rd century. It’s almost certainly synthesized or replicated.

(Replicators exist in DISCO/SNW I’m sure but I’m not sure for food versus equipment)

Re: T’Pring

I think a lot of “Amock Time” can be explained away as Spock and T’Pring both being under the influence of Pon’Farr and having gone through most of the rituals when there was ample room to get out before it happened. Which is to say they really should have ended this relationship much earlier. We also know Vulcan divorce is a thing since Sybok’s mother and Sarek dissolved their union.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Having tried some synthetic meat, I can say it's closer to being a reality than people might think (Though it's certainly still a ways off.) I do agree it will take a couple of generations for enough people to get over the 'ew" factor for it to become ubiquitous. Though I suspect climate change may expediate that a bit in the coming decades -- much like the inevitable water as commodity will quickly change peoples' opinions on the purified recycled stuff.

 

[flandry84]

Humour is a difficult concept. Live a little.
It's trying to be like TOS. TOS had comedy.

TOS also had Doomsday machines,Klingons,Atavachrons etc.
It’s a show about a spaceship and a literal galaxy of possibility.It’s frustrating to see cutesy farce episodes pandering to the ‘shipping’ crowd.

 

[El Maestro]

Humour is a difficult concept. Live a little.
It's trying to be like TOS. TOS had comedy.

TOS also had Doomsday machines,Klingons,Atavachrons etc.
It’s a show about a spaceship and a literal galaxy of possibility.It’s frustrating to see cutesy farce episodes pandering to the ‘shipping’ crowd.

Trek had space ships and the other kind too.

 

[UssGlenn]

hmmmm, bacon, or brussel sprouts?

Even if I suddenly became veggie or even vegan, there's no way I'm eating brussel sprouts. Ever. So I can understand the angst people have with Spock's bacon scene. However, it is an amusing scene in and of itself. And that is all that matters in the context of this episode.

You should know the newer varieties of brussel sprouts have been bred to have lower levels of glucosinolates, so they might not taste bad to you any more.

 

[Mr Awe]

This one gets an 8.

As this episode started and went a long, it gave me several good laughs but was about as deep as a plastic kiddy pool completely with a goofy plot device of suddenly Spock is human. Nothing wrong with that but--just nothing extraordinary either. So, it was cruising for a 7.

But the emotional kicker near the ending bumped it up to an 8. I'm referring to Spock with his Mother. Quite touching.

The superfluous ending with Chapel neither added or subtracted from the episode. Nice in some ways but I'm sure that Spock is the cheating type even when he's emotionally compromised.

Nice to see some new Vulcan traditions.

Like last week's episode, there's not actually much to say about this episode.

 

[flandry84]

Tune in next week when Captain Pike inadvertently invites two dates to the annual Starfleet ball.Hilarity ensues..

 

[Nerys Myk]

Humour is a difficult concept. Live a little.
It's trying to be like TOS. TOS had comedy.

TOS also had Doomsday machines,Klingons,Atavachrons etc.
It’s a show about a spaceship and a literal galaxy of possibility.It’s frustrating to see cutesy farce episodes pandering to the ‘shipping’ crowd.

We must have watched different episodes.

Star Trek is a pretty big tent. It can do light comedy and relationship stories. It’s about people who live and work on a spaceship, That’s the setting, This episode also leaned in the science fiction side with extra-dimensional aliens and DNA based ailments and solutions.

 

[Amaris]

From a person hailing from a “meat culture” in Kentucky, I should note there’s “meat” that is meat cooked and then there is “meat” that is prepared, seasoned, and served as an art form. Pike may not be quite as good at it as Sisko but I fully presume that the bacon being served in Pike’s kitchen is more than the straight out of the Kroger isle and on a pan kind as well. And yes, I’m assuming that the meat is ethical either way due to the impracticality of mass food storage in the 23rd century. It’s almost certainly synthesized or replicated.

(Replicators exist in DISCO/SNW I’m sure but I’m not sure for food versus equipment)

Re: T’Pring

I think a lot of “Amock Time” can be explained away as Spock and T’Pring both being under the influence of Pon’Farr and having gone through most of the rituals when there was ample room to get out before it happened. Which is to say they really should have ended this relationship much earlier. We also know Vulcan divorce is a thing since Sybok’s mother and Sarek dissolved their union.

Indeed, I doubt they've got meat stored aboard ship, it's likely replicated. That said, according to Spock, the bacon was "smoky, salty, sweet, and soft and crispy all at the same time," so it's definitely been seasoned and well prepared.

 

[Okmyx]

You should know the newer varieties of brussel sprouts have been bred to have lower levels of glucosinolates, so they might not taste bad to you any more.

But the poor sprouts are ripped from their stalks with no regard to the plant. Sorry, against my beliefs!

 

[Tallguy]

Is there any indication in Amok Time that T'Pring is undergoing Pon Farr?

Tune in next week when Captain Pike inadvertently invites two dates to the annual Starfleet ball.Hilarity ensues..

You seem to be the sort that didn't enjoy Rascals.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Oh yeah. I forgot they actually added to canon re: Vulcan traditions this episode with the ritual torture teapot and "insult your future son-in-law/daughter-in-law." People will be able to argue about deviations from it in the future. Truly we live in an age of miracles.

 

[fireproof78]

Tune in next week when Captain Pike inadvertently invites two dates to the annual Starfleet ball.Hilarity ensues..

Well, perhaps we will resolve the Baetel relationship. Sounds good.

 

[Racefuel]

its always entertaining to me to see the people who get upset when Star Trek tries to have fun.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

But the poor sprouts are ripped from their stalks with no regard to the plant. Sorry, against my beliefs!

Roasted with maple syrup and bacon? Lordy!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Someday Spock will meet up with some plant based aliens and have some explaining to do.

 

[Jedi Marso]

What if Pike is a really s----y cook and the rest of his crew and guests are just faking their oohs and aahs because... wait for it... he is the captain?

I mean, how to you really know?

 

[Captain Jollydark]

Having tried some synthetic meat, I can say it's closer to being a reality than people might think (Though it's certainly still a ways off.) I do agree it will take a couple of generations for enough people to get over the 'ew" factor for it to become ubiquitous. Though I suspect climate change may expediate that a bit in the coming decades -- much like the inevitable water as commodity will quickly change peoples' opinions on the purified recycled stuff.

I think they just figured out how to get the fat right. I mean I can't see growing a beautifully marbled rib-eye, but who knows?

 

[fireproof78]

its always entertaining to me to see the people who get upset when Star Trek tries to have fun.

Fun is subjective, as Star Trek itself would note with Scotty.