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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x04 - "Among the Lotus Eaters"

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All I’m going to say is that this answer to the problem face in this episode should have been the hat. 6/10. Expected more from an Ortegas story.

Voyager and Enterprise more so than TNG. TNG still had quite a bit of pre-explored/contacted planets. Even then, since Voyager was about getting back home, that means Enterprise was the only series purely about exploration for its own sake. And they abandoned that premise in the third season.

No they didn’t. The military mission took precedent, but they still explored strange new worlds.
 
And even aboard the Enterprise during DSC season 2!

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Speaking of uniform colour oddities: the casualty screen from the original Rigel VII mission shows two crewmembers in red, and one in blue. The person identified as "science specialist" was not the one in blue! :)
Could this be another blurring by the writers of naval/Starfleet ranks again? All Starfleet crew will have scientific training. Officers tend to have at least degree equivalent training in one subject, training with minor and major subjects, with some, usually science officers, having multiple science or engineering degrees.

Enlisted crew tend to be more generalists. In the army, a specialist is someone above the private rank (crewman) who isn't considered a non-commissioned officer. The might be consistent with a petty officer third class with scientific experience, even if just from experience in certain departments, dubbed as specialists. Burnham, when she was court martialled, was brought back in as a science specialist as she was no longer an officer.

So, if this officer is indeed the records officer, it would not presumably be protocol to refer to them as a science specialist. Of course TOS had numerous lieutenants with no rank insignia running around. It's just not important enough to most viewers for the writers and production staff to make sure it all gels perfectly.
 
Pike did have one line that caused me to raise an eyebrow, when they were discussing the prior landing party fiasco on Rigel 7.

Words to the effect that they were evacuating with the wounded, and keeping track of their equipment fell by the wayside. Given the Prime Directive, you'd think that equipment inventory (tool control!) would have been of primary importance, and there is probably someone aboard the ship whose job (or at least a collateral duty) centers around that, like a supply chief or yeoman. (One not assigned to the way team!)

As soon as they realized there was equipment left behind, ESPECIALLY WEAPONS, there should have been a secondary mission to retrieve them, even if it went to another ship. And I mean immediately, not five years later. Very sloppy, starfleet! Very sloppy. :(
They’re not so good at Second Contact. It’s canon you know.
 
Speaking of uniform colour oddities: the casualty screen from the original Rigel VII mission shows two crewmembers in red, and one in blue. The person identified as "science specialist" was not the one in blue! :)
The part that got me about that is while that the blueshirt was only listed as "Ensign" or rather the abbreviation "ENS." Given Nguyen was listed as "Yeoman" and the other redshirt as "Science Specialist" one has to wonder why the blueshirt is only listed by his rank rather than his job title like the other two?
 
It's interesting how some people are inferring Ortega's sexuality just by her haircut... ;)

Post Felicity, I'm %90 that the actress had that hair cut forced on her.

If the hair cut is an expression of the characters sexuality, it was not the actors decision.

Or she's another homage to Vasquez from Aliens :)
 
So, there were graphics made up including capsule biographies for Spock, Chapel, Ortegas, Chin-Riley...?
 
I think this is the first episode of SNW that clicked for me— don’t get me wrong, I’ve liked the show since I first caught up with the show yet I haven’t tipped into loving the show.

But this episode? I felt it! I don’t know if it’s because the episode was tackling my favorite themes: memory and identity but man did it feel like it worked and I’m glad! I’m really glad I finally got into SNW! I’ve been waiting since season 1 to get this feeling and now its here!
 
Or we could just go all meta and acknowledge that these were pilot and early episodes of the show, and the showrunners didn't have it all figured out yet, and quit trying to shoehorn every little inconsistency into an in-world explanation.

And before anyone asks, yes, I've been around the board a while. ;)
and where is the fun in that?
 
I have this gut feeling that Bartel might not survive this season. I could be wrong.
I hope she doesn’t die, but she seems to be out of the game, as she probably isn’t close to pike anymore when the accident happens.

The Odyssey is a fun read. It's very much an adventure story. But the Illiad and the Aeneid are boring AF.
Well, the Aeneid was written with a lot of political considerations in mind and those go over the head of most modern readers (the same is true for Dante’s Commedia, by the way, but he’s much more direct and wrote a much more entertaining work anyway) and calling it a cheap knockoff is probably right. It was a mandatory reading for me too and honestly not one I enjoyed.
I still like the Iliad, but some of my fondest earliest memories are of my grandfather play acting all three works using stones as warriors, so I’m probably biased.

By the way, there used to be plenty of other works around the Troy War that didn’t get to us or that we only have a few fragments of, such as the story of the return of Greek warrior Diomedes, which was similar to the Odissey but ends with his death, with him never returning home. The Troy war must have been one of the oldest franchises around!
And I’m sure the fans wanted Virgil hung for disrespecting the franchise and having Achilles acting out of character!
 
Post Felicity, I'm %90 that the actress had that hair cut forced on her.

If the hair cut is an expression of the characters sexuality, it was not the actors decision.

Or she's another homage to Vasquez from Aliens :)
She got to choose the haircut. Same as Celia Rose Gooding got to choose hers. Same as Rebecca Romijn asked for a version of the mini skirt uniform and got it.
 
I hope she doesn’t die, but she seems to be out of the game, as she probably isn’t close to pike anymore when the accident happens.
I haven't seen the trailer in question, but apparently I'm told there's a shot that seems to imply she's facing down the Gorn later on or whatever.

I'm guessing it'll be the obvious--the Gorn turn Batel into a breeding sack, like they did with Hemmer.

She'll ask Pike to euthanize her to spare her the pain and kill the Gorn before they're born. But she'll also ask Pike what he's been hiding since Boreth. He tells her. The scene becomes doubly sad because she now knows Pike will live on as a cripple and she can't do anything about it, and then Pike kills her.
 
Well, the Aeneid was written with a lot of political considerations in mind and those go over the head of most modern readers (the same is true for Dante’s Commedia, by the way, but he’s much more direct and wrote a much more entertaining work anyway) and calling it a cheap knockoff is probably right. It was a mandatory reading for me too and honestly not one I enjoyed.
I still like the Iliad, but some of my fondest earliest memories are of my grandfather play acting all three works using stones as warriors, so I’m probably biased.

By the way, there used to be plenty of other works around the Troy War that didn’t get to us or that we only have a few fragments of, such as the story of the return of Greek warrior Diomedes, which was similar to the Odissey but ends with his death, with him never returning home. The Troy war must have been one of the oldest franchises around!
And I’m sure the fans wanted Virgil hung for disrespecting the franchise and having Achilles acting out of character!
I read Dante in a version with annotations and it really helped my appreciation and enjoyment. My biggest problem with the Illiad was all the repitition (understandable in what was originally memorized and told orally) and all the equipment listings. I never thought of it as a "franchise" before!
 
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