Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x02 - "Ad Astra Per Aspera"
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I can't say that I like this one yet..
Off to watch the Trial of #1 Una-Chin Riley
This episode is like a decade late.
Depends on which country you're referencing.
Some countries, this allegory would very much be relevant today.
We only have to look at many other parts of the world and not just look at only North America or Western Europe.
I really liked this one, but I have to give it a 9 and not a 10. The reason I'm not giving it a 10 is I really wanted Pike to have that discussion he promised to have earlier in the series. The lawyer came through, but man she was a pretty hardline "SJW" at the start of the episode. I'm really glad they did a 180 as the episode went along because Una would have been in trouble if she hadn't.
At the beginning her actions actually hurt the case so, yeah.
Speaking of canon, I think the canon rule that Starfleet courts-martial don't have juries to be pretty silly.
I mean, I get why they couldn't squeeze one in on the set in 1966. But there's no reason that couldn't have been rectified now.
I guess the Federation really is fucking tyrannical.
I mean, I get why they couldn't squeeze one in on the set in 1966. But there's no reason that couldn't have been rectified now.
I guess the Federation really is fucking tyrannical.
Still a bit behind the rest of you guys. I was catching up with Riverdale, of all things.
Just got to the trial opening. Damn, I loved the "Space Seed" shout-out. Did we ever see that bell thing again? I don't recall it from "The Measure of a Man," but I haven't seen that in ages.
Just got to the trial opening. Damn, I loved the "Space Seed" shout-out. Did we ever see that bell thing again? I don't recall it from "The Measure of a Man," but I haven't seen that in ages.
DS9’s Rules of Engagement (and I think TNG’s First Duty) also had the bell.
Something still nags at me a bit about this whole storyline. (Been bugging me since DS9, actually.)
How did humans sell the other Federation members on the dangers of genetic engineering of sapients? Did the Andorians, Tellarites, and Vulcans all have some sort of catastrophe along the lines of the Eugenics Wars?
How did humans sell the other Federation members on the dangers of genetic engineering of sapients? Did the Andorians, Tellarites, and Vulcans all have some sort of catastrophe along the lines of the Eugenics Wars?
I think I had really unrealistic expectations based on the "Best episode of Modern Trek" reviews and comparisons to Measure of a Man. It was a good episode, but maybe I need to rewatch the season 1 episode referenced here, because I don't really get the persecution of the Illyrians. It just didn't feel like they did any work to make that feel real, other than the brief flashback sequence.
So when Una gives her testimony of her persecution, it feels hollow because it's obviously allegory (and with the idea of 'passing', likely a Trans allegory)... but given how we live in a world where Elon Musk wants to have 50 kids because he thinks his DNA is more valuable than anyone else's DNA, my brain can't accept the notion that people who practice eugenics are repressed class. That was handled better on DS9, and I know that here it's allegory and not the actual issue being discussed, but it made the ending feel a little hollow for me.
With Measure of a Man and Drumhead, it was very clear why the system was working against the person on trial. Even the Voyager episode with the Doctor and his holonovel. Here it just didn't have the same effect on me because it needed more development.
That, or I really do need to rewatch that S1 episode.
So when Una gives her testimony of her persecution, it feels hollow because it's obviously allegory (and with the idea of 'passing', likely a Trans allegory)... but given how we live in a world where Elon Musk wants to have 50 kids because he thinks his DNA is more valuable than anyone else's DNA, my brain can't accept the notion that people who practice eugenics are repressed class. That was handled better on DS9, and I know that here it's allegory and not the actual issue being discussed, but it made the ending feel a little hollow for me.
With Measure of a Man and Drumhead, it was very clear why the system was working against the person on trial. Even the Voyager episode with the Doctor and his holonovel. Here it just didn't have the same effect on me because it needed more development.
That, or I really do need to rewatch that S1 episode.