Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x02 - "Ad Astra Per Aspera"

[Nerys Myk]

I'm not referring to this episode as such, but the series. Rather than an episodic format, the episodes have a clear interconnected and open narrative and yes, I do find the episode melodramatic. I do think a show mustn't forget what has happened earlier, but if they're piling on and on it becomes a soap opera.

Doesn’t sound like the show I watch. The first episode followed up on La’An from season one. And the second one followed up on the season one cliffhanger. This weeks episode seems to stand on it own ,Hardly a soap opera or “piling it on. Fairly standard for Trek and episodic TV.

Do you have anything to contribute or are all your posts nonsense? I've noticed that this community has a very low tolerance for people expressing a dissenting view. If I was to post that I didn't like an episode of "The Mandalorian" over at the TheForce.net, I wouldn't be jumped by trolls such as you..

This is a discussion board. We discuss things, including dissenting views.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Do you have anything to contribute or are all your posts nonsense? I've noticed that this community has a very low tolerance for people expressing a dissenting view. If I was to post that I didn't like an episode of "The Mandalorian" over at the TheForce.net, I wouldn't be jumped by trolls such as you..

that's mostly because there's nothing that Star Wars fans hate more than Star Wars

 

[Omegaphallic]

that's mostly because there's nothing that Star Wars fans hate more than Star Wars

Okay that is it, this forum needs a laugher emoji alternative to liking asap, because that was funny.

 

[fireproof78]

that's mostly because there's nothing that Star Wars fans hate more than Star Wars

I think because fans have been angry since Ewoks. They know no other way.

 

[Omegaphallic]

This might be the best court room episode I've ever seen in Star Trek, I mean all the performances were top notch, but Una's lawyer gave what imho is the best lawyer preformce I've ever seen and she's so hot it makes the possiblity she's genetically engineered more believable.

 

[Omegaphallic]

To play Devil's Advocate....

The Federation's position seems to be that to do this to children is child abuse. And if you step back from this episode, parents not accepting children for who they are and deciding to fiddle with their child's genome is a bit extreme and why I think tying it to an allegory about being gay or trans crumbles and falls apart.

Also, trying to justify it as a cultural practice by the Illyrians doesn't work either. There's a LOT of cultural practices that are both stupid and abusive, and the governments of the world have a place in banning them.

Una calls it arrest, but the Federation would probably classify it as putting a child in custody in the same way that children are taken into custody in the here and now from parents that abuse their children.

but you never punish the child victim of circumcision, you punish the parents. The case is very much more grey then say gay marriage, but that makes it more interesting.

 

[Omegaphallic]

Oops

 

[Omegaphallic]

I was pointing out a double standard of moral tolerance. Because FGM was (is still) a practice in Africa and the Middle East and primarily associated with Islam.

Its not really Islam, its sources tend to ve cultural. The Quran does not demand female circumcision, even male circumcision is more of a suggestion then a religious rule.

In countries were it is practiced its often practiced by Christians too.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Spoiler: Trekspertise - An Interview w／ Dr. Valerie Weiss, Director of “Ad Astra Per Aspera”

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Interview with the Director of the episode.

 

[Dukhat]

Jörg thinks they replaced the USS Federation plaque for the Court Room redress.
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1673413318533341185

What was the plaque for 32nd century Federation Headquarters doing in a SNW episode?

 

[cooleddie74]

Probably the same reason sculptures in Stratos on Ardana turned up in Flint's castle a week later in TOS. An interesting-looking prop that could be reused to save money, plus at least with the plaque you can't make out much detail so it can be just any generic rectangular Starfleet dedication plaque.

 

[Dukhat]

Probably the same reason sculptures in Stratos on Ardana turned up in Flint's castle a week later in TOS. An interesting-looking prop that could be reused to save money, plus at least with the plaque you can't make out much detail so it can be just any generic rectangular Starfleet dedication plaque.

Oh, ok. I haven’t seen the episode yet and that Twitter post made it look like the prop was seen up close.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

What was the plaque for 32nd century Federation Headquarters doing in a SNW episode?

It wasn't the same plaque.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Treks shows using each others assets is a thing to be bothered by?

 

[cooleddie74]

A piece of Borg sphere wreckage in the Arctic in 2153 was literally the Enterprise-E saucer section covered in fake snow and ice. This is what Trek does.

 

[fireproof78]

Treks shows using each others assets is a thing to be bothered by?

Yes. It shows disrespect for the hard work of the timeline.

Also, it's lazy .

Obligatory rant over.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A piece of Borg sphere wreckage in the Arctic in 2153 was literally the Enterprise-E saucer section covered in fake snow and ice. This is what Trek does.

Are many of the E-D interiors redresses of the ones from the TOS films?

 

[cooleddie74]

The Season 1 Battle Bridge is the TOS Movie 1701 Bridge with just some stations and consoles shifted around or replaced. The Stargazer bridge might as well be the TOS Movie 1701's save for the unique 24th century LCARS. Even the chairs are TMP blue and brown.

 

[Dukhat]

Treks shows using each others assets is a thing to be bothered by?

Nah

 

[Tuskin38]

Oh, ok. I haven’t seen the episode yet and that Twitter post made it look like the prop was seen up close.

they reused the HQ set in this episode.