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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"

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]And marijuana is no more harmful than alcohol.

Add to this the simple fact that marijuana is primarily illegal because of racism, and I see no reason whatsoever why an enlightened society like the Federation would ban responsible cannabis use by adults..

Interesting but I feel we're way off course now.

I just said the scene didn't fit for me.
 
Interesting but I feel we're way off course now.

I just said the scene didn't fit for me.

Well I'm still not getting this. You say you prefer formal language, but Seven explicitly refers to the drug by its formal name. It's not like she calls it reefer, or M.J., or a blunt, or the numerous other informal names. So this is both consistent with her longstanding tendency to make wry sarcastic comments in stressful situations, and with your stated preference for formal language.
 
Well I'm still not getting this. You say you prefer formal language, but Seven explicitly refers to the drug by its formal name. It's not like she calls it reefer, or M.J., or a blunt, or the numerous other informal names. So this is both consistent with her longstanding tendency to make wry sarcastic comments in stressful situations, and with your stated preference for formal language.

You don't need to get this. You can be fine with it, and I can not like it as it felt out of place to me.
 
The HIvje' has parts of popular phrases on it (not the complete ones, apparently)

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"rebel nooDle chajItar ngour" :shifty:
 
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piqaD in neon signage. That must've been pricey to commission and build.

(I hope to see Vulcan/V'Tosh similarly codified. Maybe korsaya.org's version can be used.)
 
Well I'm still not getting this. You say you prefer formal language, but Seven explicitly refers to the drug by its formal name. It's not like she calls it reefer, or M.J., or a blunt, or the numerous other informal names.

Borg weed...there's a thought.

RESISTANCE IS MELLOW
BOGARTING THAT JOINT IS IRRELEVANT
YOUR APPETITE WILL BE ASSIMILATED
 
Every episode shows something we didn’t previously know about TOS. That’s all. Every single example that people have pulled out of SNW, DSC or ENT as “doing violence to what’s established” — for many years now — has struck me as “What the hell do you mean there used to be an Ottoman Empire? I watched every single episode of Law & Order and nobody ever mentioned it; there’s no such thing!”
Of course, in the wake of “Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow”, I have to amend that with “—unless they specifically say there’s been a change in the timeline; and I’m now forced to admit that it’s always possible that that’s the case.”

In other words, my default assumption remains that (for example) Spock always had a human sister; but I’m now forced to admit to the possibility that he didn’t originally. My default is going to be that if they don’t say there’s been a change, my assumption will be that there hasn’t been; but I’m forced to admit the possibility that there has been. So in a way, it’s up to the individual viewer now.
 
In other words, my default assumption remains that (for example) Spock always had a human sister; but I’m now forced to admit to the possibility that he didn’t originally. My default is going to be that if they don’t say there’s been a change, my assumption will be that there hasn’t been; but I’m forced to admit the possibility that there has been. So in a way, it’s up to the individual viewer now.
Well, DSC Season 3 showed the events of TNG Unification still happened with that recording of Spock they watch. There's also mention of Admiral Picard and the Golem from Picard series. So it could just be a very similar timeline, or the only change was the position of the war.

We don't know when the changes to delay the Eugenics Wars actually happened.
So I'm sticking with the changes only effected the position of the war (and possibly La'an's age)
 
Anyway, I don't think any of the stated reasons you have for objecting to the use of "pro tip" hold up. What it really boils down to is, Star Trek during the Berman era tended to use highly formal prescriptivist English; you're accustomed to that creative conceit and the use of idioms that have only recently become common therefore breaks verisimilitude for you. But the Berman era ended almost twenty years ago and modern Star Trek writers are not interested in preserving the creative conceit that idioms and slang would not be in common usage. Just as we have to transition from the creative conceit that obvious models were spaceships to the conceit that CGI are spaceships, we have to transition from the conceit that idioms and slang would not be used to the conceit that idioms and slang we understand will be used.

Here's the thing, the issue is indeed verisimilitude. Modern slang doesn't bother you right now, you know when it will? in 30 years when no one is still saying "Pro tip". As noted earlier it's only been in popular use for about 10 years. And it's not just a Berman thing, TOS didn't use 60's slang either. I guarantee TOS wouldn't have aged as well as it has if the characters used phrases like "Groovy", "Bummer", and "Far Out". You'll notice when they did their Hippie episode they invented all new slang, like "Herbert" and "We reach". Gary Mitchell's use of "She's nova" is also a good example.

The Berman era solution was to not use any slang at all, but the actual issue isn't that slang shouldn't be used, it's that it should be 23rd century slang, not 21st. I'm sure the writers are talented enough to come up with some.
 
The Eugenics Wars always happened when they did the same way Riker and Geordi were always in the cockpit of the Phoenix with Zefram Cochrane. It's only an altered history because we the viewer remember an episode and a movie with different dates being spoken or assume that FC fixed history with a "new but the same" timeline. In-universe nothing changed from the perspective of historians.
 
The Berman era solution was to not use any slang at all, but the actual issue isn't that slang shouldn't be used, it's that it should be 23rd century slang, not 21st. I'm sure the writers are talented enough to come up with some.
O'RLY
From TNG S1 Lonely Among Us
LAFORGE: "Then he'd have to be relieved of command. Which you could do, Doctor, but it's bookoo trouble if you're wrong."
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I guess Geordi served in Vietnam in the 1960s before signing onto the 1701-D in teh 24th century...must really be an 'old soul' eh?
 
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