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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"
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The blandest, flakiest and coldest. 
Yawn.
What’s pro trip anyways?
… and? By the 23rd century it will be old language. And as pointed out before, Trek has always used modern language.
Also the term has existed for decades. Long before YouTube was a thing.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pro_tip
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pro tip: when you think that a three decades old term is "very current", the next step is to yell about music being played to loud.
YOU KIDS WITH YOUR HIP LEGS AND LEGGY HIPS. AND THE SWATCH WATCHES. THINK YOU'RE SO COOL.
I just finished it. Pretty disappointing.
I really hate the idea of Spock stealing the Enterprise back during the Pike era. Not only is it out of character for Spock, but it blunts all the impact of both "The Menagerie' and Star Trek III. (Doing the same thing but earlier is the laziest way to make a prequel.) Pike and Number One were both barely in it. And Carol Kane was sadly in "Goofy Carol Kane" mode that would've been more suited for an episode of Taxi or the second Addams Family movie. I wish she'd played it straighter.
M'Benga and Chapel's escape from the ship was cool though. I haven't seen that before.
Not what I wanted from a season premiere, especially when the season is only 10 episodes long. I'm giving it a 3 out of 10.
Let's hope the next episode is better...
EDIT: It was!
I really hate the idea of Spock stealing the Enterprise back during the Pike era. Not only is it out of character for Spock, but it blunts all the impact of both "The Menagerie' and Star Trek III. (Doing the same thing but earlier is the laziest way to make a prequel.) Pike and Number One were both barely in it. And Carol Kane was sadly in "Goofy Carol Kane" mode that would've been more suited for an episode of Taxi or the second Addams Family movie. I wish she'd played it straighter.
M'Benga and Chapel's escape from the ship was cool though. I haven't seen that before.
Not what I wanted from a season premiere, especially when the season is only 10 episodes long. I'm giving it a 3 out of 10.
Let's hope the next episode is better...
EDIT: It was!
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Since he did it in TOS (Comadeered the Enterprise), how is it 'out of character' for him because he did it to assist a comrade 6 years earlier?
The phrase "pro tip" (not "trip") is an idiom, short for "professional tip," used as a prefix for a piece of advice the speaker is about to give the listener.
Example: "Pro tip: Always make sure you wash your hands after using the restroom."
I first became aware of the idiom in the 2010s, but I don't know when it emerged.
I remember using it around the year 2000
We've not seen the same depth of feeling for La'an that Spock had for Pike in "The Menagerie." Plus, was stealing the Enterprise the most logical course of action Spock could have taken? I think not.
But mostly it's just hacky to repeat a major plot point from two of the most famous Trek stories of all. If I ever see another regular defy orders to steal their Starship and just get off with a slap on the wrist, it'll be too soon.
Well, for Spock, he (now) only stole the ship twice. He wasn't involved in stealing it in ST:III TSFS. That was Kirk, McCoy, Chekov, Sulu and Scotty - none of which served under Pike. (And no, McCoy channeling Spock's Katra for one line <> Spock was involved in the plan made.)
Which is one time too many. It's dumb for the same reason ENT sending Archer to Rura Penthe was dumb. Because it's hack, repetitive, and it was already done much better elsewhere.
And you think I didn't know this... Why, exactly?
Poor set up. Good episode. I'll take Spock's thievery over other Enterprise thefts.
I think the other instances of 'stealing' the Enterprise were qualitatively different. In Amok Time Spock's emotions were out of control and it was more of an unauthorised detour, followed by disobeying an order not to take an unauthorised detour.
STIII was definitely stealing as the ship was uncrewed and awaiting decommissioning. But the context is that it was awaiting decommissioning.
So in the Broken Circle there are a lot of factors that include disobeying orders, the risk of political instability, and limited information. It's more taking the ship on an unauthorised mission in defiance of orders than stealing.
For me, taking the ship stands out as a bit rushed and a bit silly because the reaction of April is a bit rushed and a bit silly. If this world and the treaty are that important, it seems ludicrous that Starfleet Intelligence would not have agents among the local population. It would be silly for a senior officer to just say no as opposed to not yet but I will look into it. Then the dilemma becomes more about wanting to be onsite when the mission gets authorised rather than just going it alone.
It was Pelia that made it fun, so in some respects, the silly was intentional, but I wish that the decision to take the ship was more nuanced.
Despite all that, if we look back at Amok Time and Spock behaving emotionally, it is possible that we could chalk the whole silly mess up to his current issues and Pelia's desperation to relieve her boredom.
STIII was definitely stealing as the ship was uncrewed and awaiting decommissioning. But the context is that it was awaiting decommissioning.
So in the Broken Circle there are a lot of factors that include disobeying orders, the risk of political instability, and limited information. It's more taking the ship on an unauthorised mission in defiance of orders than stealing.
For me, taking the ship stands out as a bit rushed and a bit silly because the reaction of April is a bit rushed and a bit silly. If this world and the treaty are that important, it seems ludicrous that Starfleet Intelligence would not have agents among the local population. It would be silly for a senior officer to just say no as opposed to not yet but I will look into it. Then the dilemma becomes more about wanting to be onsite when the mission gets authorised rather than just going it alone.
It was Pelia that made it fun, so in some respects, the silly was intentional, but I wish that the decision to take the ship was more nuanced.
Despite all that, if we look back at Amok Time and Spock behaving emotionally, it is possible that we could chalk the whole silly mess up to his current issues and Pelia's desperation to relieve her boredom.
Pro tip: you're speaking through your own lanaguage bias with some ageism thrown in for good measure. It may have originated that long ago but it certainly was not used in the UK and even Google shows an astronomical rise since 2010 with the mid 2010s in particular.
It's a condescending term and very American which is why I didn't feel it fit, and I consider language explosion over 10 to 15 years recent.