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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"

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Well we know know what happens to Chapel and M'benga. After they took the super soldier serum M'benga was demoted for juicing and Chapel got holes in her brain that made her into her TOS version.

Jokes aside. I give it a low B. I love Kane. Especially that "coming out to Spock's mom" lol. La'an is always the best. Spock had some highs and lows but that has more to do with the writing, not Peck. Looking forward to more.
 
cooleddie74 said:
Archer was pressure-ejected from Cold Station 12 into the vacuum of space and though he was beamed to safety faster than M'Benga and Chapel he still had many of the same physical symptoms of exposure to space. Frosty/icy exposed skin. Bloodshot eyes and capillaries breaking under the skin's surface. Signs of tremendous stresses on the human body.
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It could simply be sweat on the skin that freezes on the way out, while still briefly surrounded by a rapidly cooling and dispersing blob of air

Yistaan said:
https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2013/space-human-body/

many fallacies about space have emerged. Outer space is often depicted in film as a cold, inhospitable place, where exposure to the perpetual vacuum will make your blood boil and your body burst; alternatively, if neither of those things happen, you’re bound to instantly freeze into a human-popsicle. Meanwhile, many of these same films conveniently ignore the slightly more subtle, yet highly relevant hazards of prolonged spaceflight even in an enclosed vessel at normal atmospheric pressure.

One common misconception is that outer space is cold, but in truth, space itself has no temperature. In thermodynamic terms, temperature is a function of heat energy in a given amount of matter, and space by definition has no mass. Furthermore, heat transfer cannot occur the same way in space, since two of the three methods of heat transfer (conduction and convection) cannot occur without matter.

What does this mean for a person in space without a spacesuit? Because thermal radiation (the heat of the stove that you can feel from a distance, or from the Sun’s rays) becomes the predominant process for heat transfer, one might feel slightly warm if directly exposed to the Sun’s radiation, or slightly cool if shaded from sunlight, where the person’s own body will radiate away heat. Even if you were dropped off in deep space where a thermometer might read 2.7 Kelvin (-455°F, the temperature of the “cosmic microwave background” leftover from the Big Bang that permeates the Universe), you would not instantly freeze because heat transfer cannot occur as rapidly by radiation alone.

The absence of normal atmospheric pressure (the air pressure found at Earth’s surface) is probably of greater concern than temperature to an individual exposed to the vacuum of space [1]. Upon sudden decompression in vacuum, expansion of air in a person’s lungs is likely to cause lung rupture and death unless that air is immediately exhaled. Decompression can also lead to a possibly fatal condition called ebullism, where reduced pressure of the environment lowers the boiling temperature of body fluids and initiates transition of liquid water in the bloodstream and soft tissues into water vapor [2]. At minimum, ebullism will cause tissue swelling and bruising due to the formation of water vapor under the skin; at worst, it can give rise to an embolism, or blood vessel blockage due to gas bubbles in the bloodstream.

Our dependence on a continuous supply of oxygen is the more limiting factor to the amount of time a human could survive in a full vacuum. Contrary to how the lungs are supposed to function at atmospheric pressure, oxygen diffuses out of the bloodstream when the lungs are exposed to a vacuum. This leads to a condition called hypoxia, or oxygen deprivation. Within 15 seconds, deoxygenated blood begins to be delivered to the brain, whereupon unconsciousness results
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The Byford Dolphin explosive decompression, perhaps the closest real word example we unfortunately have, left people with boiling blood... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin#Medical_findings :ack:

cooleddie74 said:
I mean, over 100 years earlier a Klingon scientist developed an Augmented super soldier serum that when working as planned made warriors much stronger and more nimble in personal combat and even when reverse-engineered GAVE a human Klingon cranial ridges in addition to other Klingon appetites and traits, however fleeting.


Green "Kick Somebody's Ass" juice is a relatively minor achievement all things considered.
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It made me think of the parasites giving Quinn super strength just by manipulating his hormones or whatever they did

Discovery McDiscoveryFace said:
Interesting that in-series by the 24th century they all seemed happy enough to just say "Engage". Which makes the whole Seven thing in Pic 3.10 a bit odd. In the franchise, if you zone out it's really the two Captains Pike who made this a thing (Punch it/Hit it) with "Let's Fly" following on.
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Pike himself just said Engage before :shrug:

cooleddie74 said:
There is one possible continuity issue here. The Vulcan harp is already in Spock's quarters when Michael visits the Enterprise in Season 2 of DSC and is also visible in SNW Season 1, though his quarters now look radically different on the inside.

Was it Spock's all along and he just used it as a wall decoration to display his Vulcan heritage and M'Benga retrieved it from Spock's quarters when he wasn't looking? He never plays it until now?
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We all had to get recorder flutes in 5th grade or so and learn to play them in music class. I never really played it again, just tried once or twice and quickly gave up, but still have it and even took it with me when I moved :D
 
cooleddie74 said:
The math is always TOS > TNG.
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That's where it's at for me now. I started as a child of the Berman era, but over time the scales have tipped towards the original crew. After Picard S3, I'd be quite happy never to see the 24th / 25th century again. I don't need anything else I fondly remember from that era dug up and "followed up on", thank you.

Given the mediocrity of recent years, I'm happy for SNW to take as much latitude as they wish. I have no interest reconciling SNW with anything else. Sure, people can expend energy arguing that it could've been a full reboot, or why did they use Chapel instead of a new character, etc. Well, they did - and it's turned out pretty good. The ifs and whys don't matter much to me at this juncture.
 
Solid 8/10. Ethan Peck was great in this episode. It was fun to see him steal the Enterprise to help La'an. I'm glad we got her back on the show so fast. There were some fun moments between Spock and the Klingons, and some intense scenes concerning Spock and Chapel. I was intrigued by the ending and wonder what kind of Gorn threat the federation is facing.
 
I assume the DS9 image has something to do with their war episodes.

Sisko_is_my_captain said:
...makes you go psycho if you shoot up too much of it.
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That seems reasonably likely. :lol:

Use of drugs in warfare

In terms of science fiction, of course, there's nothing at all remarkable about the notion of combat performance-enhancing drugs. But it's not something that would necessarily be widely advertised or explicitly endorsed by Starfleet leadership.
 
Pluses:
Spock and his Vulcan lute
New Engineer Pelia character. Talks like a witch, with humor.
New season 2 title theme.
TNG style Klingons are back.
La'An is still great in new role.
"I would like the ship to go, now! "
Non star fleet wardrobes on the planet.
Tribute to Michelle at the end.

Minuses:
I doubt a Dr and a nurse can beat up so many klingons in hand to hand combat.
The air traffic at the space dock is a bit ridiculous. No speed limits and so chaotic.
 
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Omegaphallic said:
Actually she is, people are mistaking her for an alien, but Spock said "That you managed to live on Earth among OTHER humans undetected" , not "That you managed to live on Earth among humans undetected", the word Other implies whatever her race is, its a species of human, not alien.
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I think Flint, from TOS, is one of her people. Even if he didn't ever realize there were others like him.
 
The new Klingon makeup design is pretty good. The appliances seem to incorporate most of Westmore's essential styling but follow the actor's facial contours more closely and perhaps permit a little more expression in the upper face, and the fake teeth are toned way down on most of the actors if they're used at all.
 
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Great episode. I could have done without the superserum, but otherwise it was a wonderful ride. I do believe this show is on the edge of becoming my very favorite Trek series. I wouldn't have predicted that as a lifelong TNG fan and TOS agnostic. But I found the third season of Picard creatively bankrupt in almost every way, and I found this a joy through and through. Massive props to Ethan Peck for his scene on the bridge toward the end of the episode, and Carol Kane in her final conversation with Peck.

Also, I do love that we got more from Mitchell!

It's remarkable to me how very much this show feels uninhibited by canon, like they're simply telling their story. Good stuff.
 
Finally got to see it!

very happy to have it back. Enjoyed all of it. Some minor quibbles but the cast is just terrific and it’s a visually stunning show. I like and enjoy TOS a lot and I do not view this as taking away from it. On the contrary, it’s a huge glow up and I love seeing TOS with a budget.
 
An incredibly enjoyable episode, filled with so much fun that I didn't even realize Pike had limited screen time. It's a testament to the exceptional abilities of the supporting cast, who proved they can shine just as brightly even without the lead character present.

On a scale of 1-10, I'd give it an 8.
 
sevenstars said:
But doesn't that mean if she goes into space she's going to die?
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Flint was away for a long time before his immortality started to wane, and it seems likely that returning to Earth (for X amount of time) would reset it. So it shouldn't be an issue.

This theory probably won't be confirmed either way.
 
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