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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

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And still no seatbelts.
Maybe someone can invent inertial dampeners which negate the need for seatbelts? They could adapt to physical alterations to inertia, movement and gravity etc but in a ‘space suit’ kind of way, compensating for failures in the ships artificial gravity and ship wide equivalent? It would sure beat the need for seat belts in the future! :shrug:
 
Hell, the TOS Era bridge even gains a second turbolift around 2269. Even in the 1960s and '70s the design didn't remain stable at all.
In the Animation Series, the Enterprise dose have a second turbolift on the Bridge.
In the Cage, the second turbolift was just left of the main view screen. But, you never anyone using it.
 
This does lead to TOS. Right now Pike is in command with Ortegas as the helm officer. In seven years it'll be Kirk in command with Sulu as the helm officer. Right now the bridge module has a ready room. In seven years it won't.

The entire ship is going to shrink by a good bit as well.
 
Pike gets promoted after being dumb and getting the Fed attacked and igniting a war. Things turned put pretty good for Burnham too. I gotta go find me a war to start.

Come to think of it, sounds like US generals and our overall war prosecution and lack of accountability.
I think that goes back to George Washington. ;)
 
In the Animation Series, the Enterprise dose have a second turbolift on the Bridge.
In the Cage, the second turbolift was just left of the main view screen. But, you never anyone using it.
Maybe the second turbo lift to the left is more like a plank that the Captain made people walk off if they were naughty or if they were being promoted. The plank that Worf walked off in Generations was also on the left. That was a funny scene. Especially when he knocked people back in to the water with him? Troi I think it was? :guffaw:
 
The one scene that plays badly is the final meeting in Pike's quarters between Pike and Kirk. The tone is off - a little too jocular "What a fucking day at the office, huh?" for the losses they've incurred just hours before (at most). And then Kirk sticks the knife in - "You know what, if you'd done things differently to begin with, maybe this situation wouldn't have gone all to shit." That was all a bit jarring and inappropriate.
 
The one scene that plays badly is the final meeting in Pike's quarters between Pike and Kirk. The tone is off - a little too jocular "What a fucking day at the office, huh?" for the losses they've incurred just hours before (at most). And then Kirk sticks the knife in - "You know what, if you'd done things differently to begin with, maybe this situation wouldn't have gone all to shit." That was all a bit jarring and inappropriate.
That's why Pike is checking out Kirk's file at the end. He's gonna torpedo that little snot. ;)
 
And then Kirk sticks the knife in - "You know what, if you'd done things differently to begin with, maybe this situation wouldn't have gone all to shit." That was all a bit jarring and inappropriate.

Inappropriate and also avoiding blame. It was SNW-Kirk that caused the Enterprise to be damaged and unable to finish off the Romulan Bird of Prey which led Pike to offer a temporary truce. Unlike TOS-Kirk, SNW-Kirk charged right into the plasma bolt necessitating Pike to move into rescue the Farragut crew. TOS-Kirk backed off and warped away from the plasma bolt instead of trying to go head-to-head with the Romulan.
 
Not everything will be a 10. That;s OK :)
This. One of the reasons I stopped giving numbers is because a 10 can also be a 5 or an 8 or anything in between because of how my feelings toward it are now, in the present, when I've watched it. I do vote in the poll, so people will have to look at those to see what I select, but numbers just don't cut it for me anymore. Quite frankly, I'd have voted mostly 10 this season anyway, partly because the series is very good (subjectively, obvs), but also because it's the first serialized live action Trek I've seen in a long while, and it is a breath of fresh air for me.

The more I ignore the CBS and Eaglemoss scale number the happier I am. The numbers don't even line up with onscreen graphics so I just shrug it off.
It's one of those things where you just have to accept updated in-universe canon and just roll with it. Getting caught up in the minutiae to the point where it interferes with show enjoyment is a bad route to take. I'd rather shrug it off, too. Just go with it and accept things as they are, as we see them.
 
Ok, rewatching BoT (again since starting SNW) the Shatner-ism here. The KIRK. Yeah. Wesley missed the mark big time in just the charisma and charm. He didn't need to look the part, have Shatner's speech patterns (though, maybe, a deeper voice) but even with the BD paused Shatner's Kirk commands the screen with his smile. Wesley's Kirk was a ham sandwich. (Not intent to demean the actor, I know nothing about him and haven't seen him in anything, just that as Kirk he's lacking.)

Oh, and because Pike still has the Enterprise Scotty didn't serve as father of the bride
 
The numbers don't even line up with onscreen graphics.
and the numbers on the graphics don't line up with the shape of the ship.

Besides he art team wasn't given the proper numbers in DSC Season 2. This year they do have them, at least the total height, length and width.

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Changing the actor or updating the sets or props isn’t a retcon. It’s a surface level change. It’s like claiming you have a new house because you repainted it.
I'm genuinely surprised by how many people share this opinion but hey it seems to be working out for you! I've certainly got not plans to try to talk anyone out of it.
 
The one scene that plays badly is the final meeting in Pike's quarters between Pike and Kirk. The tone is off - a little too jocular "What a fucking day at the office, huh?" for the losses they've incurred just hours before (at most). And then Kirk sticks the knife in - "You know what, if you'd done things differently to begin with, maybe this situation wouldn't have gone all to shit." That was all a bit jarring and inappropriate.

I agree that the tone wasn't right at the end. The Federation is now at war, and they're shooting the breeze like they just went through a bad simulation together. And there was no sense of loss for the Romulan commander either, something that was a key part of Balance of Terror. The words were there, but none of the emotion.

But Kirk sticking in the knife does seem on point to me. He never was one to pull his punches -- especially with other starship commanders, for whom he always showed respect and even reverence. I don't think he was trying to say "I told you so" to be petty; but rather to make sure the point wasn't lost that sometimes aggression is the appropriate response. He wasn't going disrespect Captain Pike by tiptoeing around that; nor was he going to let a weaker viewpoint prevail now that war had been declared.


Inappropriate and also avoiding blame. It was SNW-Kirk that caused the Enterprise to be damaged and unable to finish off the Romulan Bird of Prey which led Pike to offer a temporary truce. Unlike TOS-Kirk, SNW-Kirk charged right into the plasma bolt necessitating Pike to move into rescue the Farragut crew. TOS-Kirk backed off and warped away from the plasma bolt instead of trying to go head-to-head with the Romulan.

I wouldn't be so fast to give TOS-Kirk a pass... The reason he chose to warp away was because there was, just moments before, a phaser circuit burnout. The Enterprise was defenseless. And when the BOP decloaked to fire, there really wasn't another option available.

SNW-Kirk had an undamaged ship, an opportunity to strike, and backup right there. He had more options and less time. His biggest miscalculation was that Pike wouldn't press the advantage, and he seemed a good bit annoyed at having to waste time ordering Pike to fire phasers -- and having to justify the direction -- at the end of the scene.

But you're right; blame should go to both. They clearly weren't on the same page at all and that lack of understanding and teamwork made a tense situation dire.
 
Inappropriate and also avoiding blame. It was SNW-Kirk that caused the Enterprise to be damaged and unable to finish off the Romulan Bird of Prey which led Pike to offer a temporary truce. Unlike TOS-Kirk, SNW-Kirk charged right into the plasma bolt necessitating Pike to move into rescue the Farragut crew. TOS-Kirk backed off and warped away from the plasma bolt instead of trying to go head-to-head with the Romulan.

I took Kirk as trying very much to be polite at what he perceived to a failure of Commodore Deckarian proportions.

(And it was much worse)

Assuming Kirk loves the Farragut as much as the Enterprise, he probably is holding back furious anger.
 
In the original timeline Kirk lost 200 of his crewmates but his ship survived. In this one he's not only lost all those lives in 2257 but now he's lost even more and his first command is now gone as well.
 
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