Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

[DEWLine]

I am thinking more and more that Paul Schneider deserves a co-writer credit for this one. And his wife Margaret, possibly, as well.

 

[yenny]

I stopped getting commercials years ago. Never signed up for commercial free, though.

When since they've came free? The last I've remember, it was 4.99 with commercial and 9.99 without commercial anf there was no free those unless it was put on Youtube.

 

[Nerys Myk]

When since they've came free? The last I've remember, it was 4.99 with commercial and 9.99 without commercial anf there was no free those unless it was put on Youtube.

I signed up for with commercials.

 

[Kor]

When since they've came free? The last I've remember, it was 4.99 with commercial and 9.99 without commercial anf there was no free those unless it was put on Youtube.

"Commercial-free" means "without commercials," not having access without a subscription fee.
Similar to schools having signs declaring that they are "drug-free zones" because there is supposed to be no illicit drug use there.

Kor

 

[Tuskin38]

Hmm, Kelvin Timeline Kirk was born two months prematurely (January 4, 2233) or conceived two months earlier than Prime-Kirk.

One of the writers said it was a premature Birth from the stress of the attack.

He's coming back in Season 2. So, I am not confident that Pike isn't out yet.

He isn't, they've said that a couple times, and they've also said that Kirk isn't what we expect.
Plus it's too early in the timeline for Kirk to take command.

 

[shipfisher]

That no one knows what a Romulan looks like held up, barely, within the context of Balance of Terror when the Enterprise was still labeled as an Earth ship and the concept of the Federation and the Trek intergalactic community as we now know it didn't exist yet in early TOS episodes. Now, it's almost completely implausible. The Romulans not only have to hide from humans and the Fed, we also have to presume that they hid from every other major galactic power who would otherwise just tell the Fed what the Romulans look like, even as a bargaining chip or sale (such as the Fed can pay without its own currency) of information.

For a xenophobic race which would probably regard any data transmissions as possible security breaches, at least killing the video feed on comms could be pretty common practice. If anyone only gets within a few kilometers (if not a few thousand) of a ship their sensors might detect as being adorned with avian motifs, they might think the romulans were descended from birds, and would be lucky to tell the tale instead of being blown out of space.
Interstellar trade isn't a foregone conclusion. The closest the romulans might get is leveling anyone's patch they encounter and then pillaging the ruins for any useful resources. They could stay mysterious pretty easily if staying true to that form.
As to the Vulcans knowing about any common ancestry, that might be ancient knowledge reserved for some caste of governing elders, and Vulcans aren't known for being particularly effusive at the best of times.

 

[Nerys Myk]

One of the writers said it was a premature Birth from the stress of the attack.


He isn't, they've said that a couple times, and they've also said that Kirk isn't what we expect.
Plus it's too early in the timeline for Kirk to take command.

A stack of wild cards with legs?

 

[Donald G]

One of the writers said it was a premature Birth from the stress of the attack.


He isn't, they've said that a couple times, and they've also said that Kirk isn't what we expect.
Plus it's too early in the timeline for Kirk to take command.

I know the premature birth is a theory that's been bandied about. Is there an actual attribution to which "one of the writers" said it?

Also, since the theory is never presented or confirmed onscreen, its dreaded c-word status is debatable. (If people can go around claiming with a straight face that the character played by Laurel Goodwin in "The Cage" was not really "Yeoman Colt because she was never identified by character name onscreen and that name is merely noncanonical supposition . . .)

Also, in the online discussions I've googled on the premature birth theory, people seem to think that original Kirk's birthday being March 22nd was canon set in stone, rather than being invented for the Okuda Chronology based on Shatner's real life birthday. By Okuda's own rules for his chronology, that March 22, 2233 date is a conjectural date and, by the rules by which canon debate game is frequently played, not strictly canonical and subject to being overturned or revised by a subsequent production, as apparently just happened with SNW Kirk's bio entry giving him a March 9th birthday.

 

[fireproof78]

(If people can go around claiming with a straight face that the character played by Laurel Goodwin in "The Cage" was not really "Yeoman Colt because she was never identified by character name onscreen and that name is merely noncanonical supposition . . .

I can.

By Okuda's own rules for his chronology, that March 22, 2233 date is a conjectural date and, by the rules by which canon debate game is frequently played, not strictly canonical and subject to being overturned or revised by a subsequent production

Yup. That's the game alright.

 

[Tuskin38]

Kirk's March 22nd Birthday appeared on one of the computer screens made for ENT: In a Mirror Darkly. This one actually appeared on screen, which is why M-A uses the date. Only legible in the HD release.

 

[Jag2112]

Screencaps gallery now online:

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-SNW1-10.php

 

[Tuskin38]

being overturned or revised by a subsequent production, as apparently just happened with SNW Kirk's bio entry giving him a March 9th birthday.

SNW's Kirk Bio says March 22nd, not March 9th

Saw this pointed out on the TrekYards live stream, the Farragut bridge has goose neck lamps at the ends of the bridge consoles

 

[Saul]

Pre-TOS, Star Trek Early Voyages (comic) vibes. Excellent Star Trek show. It's probably the strongest first season since TOS. Love it. Going to rewatch 'Balance of Terror' and this back to back now.

 

[Noname Given]

SNW's Kirk Bio says March 22nd, not March 9th

Saw this pointed out on the TrekYards live stream, the Farragut bridge has goose neck lamps at the ends of the bridge consoles

Guess it wasn't as legible to me as I thought.

 

[Tuskin38]

So in The Making of Star Trek (might have been the TOS Writers bible) Gene said Kirk commanded a 'destroyer' before the Enterprise. The size of the Farragut, maybe they'll call it a destroyer.

 

[Donald G]

Kirk's March 22nd Birthday appeared on one of the computer screens made for ENT: In a Mirror Darkly. This one actually appeared on screen, which is why M-A uses the date. Only legible in the HD release.

True, but we can't always accept the information that appear on those datascreens at face value, either. In "Cause and Effect" [TNG], Geordi's medical records screen gives his mother's name as Alvera K. LaForge. In "Interface," when we finally saw her as a character, her name had become Silva.

EDIT: Never mind. I just saw Noname Given's quote of your post with a clearer shot of current Kirk's datascreen.

There's no discrepancy. Prime-Kirk is officially born on March 24th in Enterprise and SNW.
Thank you.

That's what I get for stepping away to deal with a sewer emergency and four attempts to check my glucose levels made difficult by trembling hands.

 

[Tuskin38]

True, but we can't always accept the information that appear on those datascreens at face value, either. In "Cause and Effect" [TNG], Geordi's medical records screen gives his mother's name as Alvera K. LaForge. In "Interface," when we finally saw her as a character, her name had become Silva.

it's still canon, it's just contradicted by later material.

 

[JRob94]

Hamlet is still Hamlet whether you film a blockbuster version or perform it in the park. What does it matter that the costumes and set look different if the same events occur?

I absolutely love this analogy!

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Neopeius]

I almost feel bad for Wesley.
It's a classic type of miscast. The guy gave his best. And he absolutely did the RIGHT acting choice of NOT trying to do a Shatner impression. Instead he played it the way he would play a honorable, great Starfleet Captain. For a guest appereance on a television series his acting was quite okay. It's just the larger-than-life comparison he's measured against....

He even actually looked the part. (At least for television standards). IMO he looks more like Shatner, than Peck looks like Nimoy.

He just has a completely, different type of persona, and wasn't able to act his way out of that.

I mean, if you're all going to bash on Wesley, Mount rarely evokes Hunter's Pike (there was about a split second in episode 2, which I finally just watched), and he has about the same range as Hunter (whom many love to bash).

Peck never gives me Spock vibes. Neither did Quinto. Are there no Jews left in Hollywood? (I think the only main Vulcan in TOS who wasn't played by a Jew was Barry Atwater as Surak...which now explains why he never felt quite right. Heck -- both Romulan commanders were Jewish, too!)

On the other hand, Tim Russ did give off good Vulcan vibes. So maybe you don't have to be part of the tribe...but it helps.