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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x06 - "Lift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reach"

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Pike didn't respond to her own accusations about his society, which sounds like her comments hit the mark.
Which surprised me, since the UFP is meant to be free from those things she mentioned, or Earth is at least in the TOS era
 
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Why? That conclusion is the very essence of Star Trek.

I live in an area where there were dozens if not hundreds of deaths caused by negligence on the part of the local corporations polluting our groundwater. The space whales are not innocent but vile if you draw that comparison. They were tunneling for resources and ignored the safety of other people but, hey, it wasn't intentional so they don't get any anger.

I think not.

Frankly, I think they should have ditched the casino episode and revealed at least some of the whales suggested they continue because they didn't care.
 
Which surprised me, since the UFP is meant to be free from those things she mentioned, or Earth is at least in the TOS era
I think Picard basically retconned the "elimination of poverty" to "well everyone gets a replicator so they don't starve, and everyone gets a home even if it's trailer sized."

There's more to life than just having basic necessities and not dying. I suspect the Federation hasn't actually addressed that. Without money, Fed citizens who don't fit in have nowhere to go and no way to get out unless they leave the Fed and earn money that other galactic societies use. Child visitation arrangements are obviously still in backwards stages going by Kirk's removal from David's life. Kelvin McCoy talks about a divorce that apparently did severe damage to his life even if they don't use money. And if you're a social reject like Barclay, having a guaranteed replicator and a roof isn't going to help one endure the agony of not being able to get a date--if holodeck tech isn't there yet like it was in the 24th century for Barclay to relieve his urges, it's even worse.
 
First perfect 10 for me this season. I had a feeling that things weren't as they seemed and that Pike's love interest would turn out to be the bad guy but.....wow. When they are taking the child to his ceremony and I figured out what "ascension" meant I'm thinking "prime directive" and what will Pike do.
 
Furthermore Pike was in a safe space within Majalis to be able to confide that he's going to be paralyzed and get an ear and an offer of trying to cure that situation. Although it's never spelled out, we never get the impression Pike is even able to come clean to his Earth starfleet girlfriend or Robert April, although he did tell Una and Spock. Pike is suffering his own personal hell and he has no space to open up about it in the Fed without likely being ridiculed or having his sanity questioned. That's probably precisely what Alora was going for when she implied the Fed wasn't as perfect as they claimed.
 
I liked it. Definitely had echos of the original series in it. I liked that the Enterprise and crew weren't always going to be able to solve the problems. Interesting twist and definitely thought provoking, which will undoubtably cause lots of arguing here.
 
I live in an area where there were dozens if not hundreds of deaths caused by negligence on the part of the local corporations polluting our groundwater. The space whales are not innocent but vile if you draw that comparison. They were tunneling for resources and ignored the safety of other people but, hey, it wasn't intentional so they don't get any anger.
Yeah, because in the real world, intent matters.
 
La'an gets away with way too much in this show. She's a jerk.

See, I really like her. But I kinda have a thing for "tougher" women like that, I guess. But the thing that sold me on her for good was the "antics" she got up to last week and the way she said she likes the "thrum of the warp core" when alone on the ship. Just something about the way she said it, just liking feeling that energy pulsing. (And I'm not speaking in a dirty sense.)

So, yeah, give me more of La'an. Particularly since she angers so many "men-inist" types.

Steve Shives liked the episode, the Trekyards guys seemed to like it okay, haven't watched Jessie Gender yet, and I suspect Angry Joe will like it okay. As I said it was a decent episode it just lacked some spark to make it level-up with tne others so far. Will have to give it abother watch.

And, Oh! I can't wait to see what that Dr. Phlox avatar YT guy come up with to talk about how the show conflicts with Trek canon. I love this stuff! (NOT!)
 
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Ok, and? That doesn't make it bad on it's own. It's how the story is retold.

Agreed. Pale Rider is a reworking of Shane. Maybe better than the original.

Or there was Bruce Willis' Last Man Standing (I didn't like this one) - it was a remake of Fistful of Dollars. Which was a remake of Yojimbo. Which was based on a novel. does anyone dislike Pale Rider or Fistful of Dollars?

I generally like the original better than a remake, but there are exceptions.
 
Which surprised me, since the UFP is meant to be free from those things she mentioned, or Earth is at least in the TOS era
Yes, but it's a fantastic punch right at the United States and how our society is built upon the backs of children in poverty, who suffer in the "third" world so that we may live in excess. When she said that, it had to be a direct shot at our late stage capitalist system. That message was for those of us who enjoy the fruits of that system at the cost of the labor being exploited to keep it in place.

* Gorgeous visuals.
* A "strange new world" visually and culturally.
* Strong character moments.
* Big morality and ethical lesson shot across the bow.

Flawless fucking episode, top to bottom.
 
A pretty good episode. Not as good as the first three, but a big step up from last week. The kid was annoying, which is what brought the episode down a bit for me while I was watching it, but they certainly didn't pull any punches. The fact that at the end of the episode Pike not only fails to stop them (which makes sense, he wasn't going to save the kid all by himself in that situation) but also knows he can't stop them from just continuing to do this was a great ending, and darker then I would have expected (but in a good way, it felt like a well written ending for the episode and not just being pointlessly dark).
 
There's no way an interstellar federation is free from poverty and suffering. It's refreshing to not see them shoveling that bullshit any more.

Earth? Earth is a well-off neighborhood.

Anyway, this one gets a 10 because of the climax. Up to that point I'd found it a little predictable - who didn't see Alora's dishonesty coming, or figure out that the "alien colony" belonged to her people?
 
Trekcore realized what I didn't see: It's about the 2nd amendment and kids living in danger because that's how the society was built by the founders, and not enough people want change. Intentional or coincidental, that makes the episode much more relevant than I thought! The price for the blissful freedom to have weapons of war is that kids have to suffer. And so it'll stay because "it's always been that way" and we don't wanna give up our weapon paradise.

More like Captain Pedantic. My kind of captain!
Guess I'm Captain Continuity then :D

So.. The phasers cost $8000 Canadian to make? So that's.. What $5 American? :biggrin::guffaw:

Prop guy saying.. We needed to stick close to Tos props... ... Wish the ship designers \producers thought that way.. :brickwall:
The TOS phaser he showed looked like the AA/DST one :D
 
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