Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x05 - "Spock Amok"
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I agree! I don't remember whether it was on this website or elsewhere, but I recall someone suggesting a collection of new Star Trek shows across different genres, with one of them a Federation political show a la West Wing.
The Federation puts on a good show of being a democratic paradise but it's so far from being perfect that an entire series could depict how practical politics and looking the other way helped make the UFP what it is.
As much as I love the Dominion War arc on DS9, I always thought the Dominion went the wrong way around in trying to take down the Federation. The UFP seems so fragile. The Dominion could have taken out the Federation by playing the members against each other. Especially given Earth's apparent domination of the union.
On the other hand, we have yet to see a Vulcan betrothal result in a marriage without the adults involved consenting. Even T'Pol's marriage to Koss was one to which she had nominally consented in the eyes of the law. And she was able to obtain a divorce once the thing for which she had agreed to marry him -- protection for her mother -- was no longer on the table.
Furthermore, the fact that Spock and T'Pring courted and that T'Pring proposed marriage to him strongly implies that these arranged marriages do not usually result in nonconsensual pairings. I get the impression that the usual practice is for parents to arrange a match as children, then for the kids to court as adults to see if the match works, and then for a marriage to result if it does. I would surmise this is because Vulcans have hang-ups over the idea of just going out and finding someone to date -- that means openly expressing emotional interest in someone! -- but having parents make the initial arrangements provides everyone with a suitable "this was purely logical" excuse to investigate/court one-another.
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Admittedly this does invite the question of what happens when a pairing does not work out, or at least of why T'Pring and Spock did not break up before "Amok Time." Perhaps T'Pring was responding to strong social pressure to marry Spock so as to become part of his very high-status family, and then arranging the kal-if-fee was a way to avoid said stigma. Or perhaps T'Pring and Spock could have obtained a divorce and she chose not to. Or, perhaps T'Pring became an actively malicious person towards Spock and merely wanted to put him in a position of having to so undergo the trial as some sort of "revenge" for some harm Spock is going to cause her later in the course of SNW. We'll see...!
No it's not. It might be wrong, but it's not slavery. That's not what slavery is.
Yes, it is slavery. It's s-- slavery.
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I've also heard this proposal regarding the Galactic Senate from that other star series. Seems like sci-fi based politics series are quite popular, across the board.
Maybe they should just turn this into a full fledged young Palpatine Disney Plus prequel tv series.
That's basically what the novel Articles of the Federation by Keith R.A. DeCandido is. I'd love to see that adapted for Paramount+. President Bacco is a wonderful character.
That could be interesting. I've only seen the movies and The Mandalorian, so I can't say how it's depicted elsewhere, but politics in Star Wars has not been that great for me so far.
Boba Fett's show is basically a political drama complete with the mayor of Mos Espa and even an actor from Veep playing a politician
Eh, officer is literally in his rank "Chief Petty Officer".
Where that fire feature. Pike can't be only one with fire!!!I love how the props Spock will have in his quarters in TOS found their way into this series. Now they just need to squeeze a few more of them in there over time. I love it!
Slavery is the ownership of people. Arranged marriages are not ownership. Let's stop broadening words into meaninglessness.
I love that in "Amok Time(TOS)" an on-set accident with the light bulb or wiring running Spock's mood lighting statue led to something flammable lighting up and creating smoke from the prop. You can see it, I believe, as Kirk says he understands Spock and will do what he can to get him to Vulcan.
For a long time in the 70's all I had access to were the James Blish adaptations. I got to see many of the episodes in first run in '66-'69, but not all, and the book adaptations helped fill in the one's I missed, but with some big differences. It did give me a unique perspective of TOS though.Unless you’re living in 60s or 70s and stuck with only the syndication cuts, I can’t imagine anyone using the cut version as reference.
well, clearly you've never been a thirteen year old girl forced to marry a man in his forties.
He is in the process of redecorating.I love how the props Spock will have in his quarters in TOS found their way into this series. Now they just need to squeeze a few more of them in there over time. I love it!
Understanding definitions has nothing to do with experience.
But seriously, would you rather be in a marriage not of your choosing, or be considered an object by law? The latter is clearly far worse, although the former could be considered a step toward it.
