You didn't want to see how the makeup department would create a naked Half-Klingon/Half-Jem'Hadar???
Most post-ENT Trek uses nostalgia bait to get viewers, and so did a lot of Trek between 1973 and 2005. I mean, does anyone think that Captain Pike and the Enterprise 1701 were brought into DSC for purely narrative-based reasons that were wholly organic? 
Trek uses nerd and canon bait and will probably never stop doing so.
Trek uses nerd and canon bait and will probably never stop doing so.
Khan Noonien Singh has entered the chat.Most post-ENT Trek uses nostalgia bait to get viewers, and so did a lot of Trek between 1973 and 2005. I mean, does anyone think that Captain Pike and the Enterprise 1701 were brought into DSC for purely narrative-based reasons that were wholly organic?
Literally the second movie ever made brought back a villain from a 1967 TV episode. Trekkies complaining day and night about nostalgia in the franchise need to go back to the three times Harry Mudd appeared in TOS and TAS, because brother, those second and third appearances weren't because of humanitarianism or tax write-offs.
They brought both of Spock's parents back!
I mean, the promotional materials for ST:TMP said that Will Decker was the son of a popular Commodore from TOS. Never said on screen, but the producers wanted him to be Matt Decker's grown son.
Nostalgia is baked into Trek. The dilemma is to pull it off well.
I think SFA did it well enough that I'm not going to complain about it. It was plenty adequate.
I think SFA did it well enough that I'm not going to complain about it. It was plenty adequate.
ST:TMP was as bad as Picard season 3, dropping the characters M'Ress and Arex, getting rid of new characters Sonak, Decker and Ilia and having the old heroes from a decade ago save the day.
There's a scene where they go to the wall with the old ships on display just to show off the TV Enterprise!
There's a scene where they go to the wall with the old ships on display just to show off the TV Enterprise!
Correct. Nostalgia can be used well. It can be used poorly, and I even find TWOK a bit unwieldy at times with it.
What's hilarious to me is the Sisko episode is exactly the kind of "Where Are They Now?" escapades that Legacy was to do, and in line with the question of the Thread for Picard around where certain characters were yet here it's just bait.
Rumor has it that Avery Brooks was pleased with the results of the SFA episode. If Avery was happy with the story and its resolution then I know "I can live with it."
The inference here being that someone does?
Everything jiggles someone's jelly
The Prophets in the Wormhole can send visions to people who have had Orb experiences before.
And no, the wormhole wasn't completely sealed as the Orb of the Emissary was still active then.
Why am I just understanding this joke now.
But wasn't used in a bad way. Picard's use was terrible.
That's not a plot hole in any form.
Didn't last long.
I missed that one. Sooo where were those shields before?
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