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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x10 – “Rubincon”

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  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 26 20.6%
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  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 5 4.0%

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As much fun as I had with Season 3 the Borg reveal was the single dumbest plot device in the entire series. Season 2 was a stupid dumpster fire but at least the alternate timeline created by Q wasn't as lazy as the Borg Queen's return.
The Borg Queen was always going to return, and Picard being the one to end her for good was only right given how interconnected his story was with the Borg.
 
The Borg Queen did not have to return. Her fate in "Endgame" was quite sufficient.
The Borg Queen returning was the strangest decision that made the strange retcon of the Queen being present for Locutus being the driving force behind Picard's assimilation. The Queen was unusual in VOY because she was obsessed; not with perfection, but individuals. The Queen is obsessed with Picard, then Seven and tries to manipulate them back to the Collective. The Queen is not the focal point of Picard's assimilation story, but Seven's. And, even that feels strange enough because she becomes obsessed with trying to bring Seven and Picard back, which feels very at odds with the Borg and their description earlier on, or even with what Lore tries to do with Hugh and his group.
 
The Borg Queen did not have to return. Her fate in "Endgame" was quite sufficient.
Her fate in Endgame was no different from her fate in First Contact or her fate on the diamond that was destroyed in a transwarp collapse.

The only way to actually kill the Queen is to make sure she has nowhere else to escape to, and thats what she did to herself in Picard.
 
Her fate in Endgame was no different from her fate in First Contact or her fate on the diamond that was destroyed in a transwarp collapse.

The only way to actually kill the Queen is to make sure she has nowhere else to escape to, and thats what she did to herself in Picard.

All Queens are all Queens in every universe and every timeline, they are connected.

It's bullshit, but it's canon.
 
Tarima wouldn't have seen the two interacting in Ko'Zeine, which established their chemistry for the audience. But Tarima would have seen the two interacting the rest of the year.
Sure but that doesn’t help the audience that’s watching the TV show, unless it’s like a “read the novels” type situation like with Palpatine returning from the dead.
 
Sure but that doesn’t help the audience that’s watching the TV show, unless it’s like a “read the novels” type situation like with Palpatine returning from the dead.
The audience saw their interaction in Ko'Zeine, which did an okay but not great job of showcasing that "yes, the two have chemistry".
 
I'm thinking in terms of the writers creating motivations for her to be insecure though. She wouldn't have seen the two of them together, and while weeks or months passed that might leader her to believe that he's hooking up with Genesis, as the audience we don't see any of that.

It's literally one episode between Caleb being forced to hang out with Genesis because she snuck back into the academy and then drunk Tarima accusing Caleb of infidelity. Even the Riker-Worf-Troi dynamic had a few episodes to develop before leading to a bitter (heated) rivalry in All Good Things.
Tarima doesn't need a reason to be insecure.

She's a teenager. Insecurity goes with the territory.
 
Tarima doesn't need a reason to be insecure.

She's a teenager. Insecurity goes with the territory.
It's still a TV show though. If the point isn't to watch the characters go through these emotions, then it might as well have been 10 episodes of Braka hamming it up.

It's like how everyone kind of just forgot Tarima's brother existed, to the point where he's even excluded from the final group shot of the season. I'm sure he's on Betazed or something and someone had some throwaway line of dialogue explaining he's working for his father now or whatever, but like... how is that good for the TV viewer?

The audience saw their interaction in Ko'Zeine, which did an okay but not great job of showcasing that "yes, the two have chemistry".
Nothing about that felt romantic in anyway though and in fact Genesis keeps pushing him to figure his shit out with Tarima. I mean, one could suggest that Caleb and Jay-Den are more likely to hook up based on what we've seen.
 
Hard disagree. There was a definite vibe...

Yeah, Caleb explicitly said something near the end of the episode:

Genesis: You haven't stopped thinking about her.
Caleb: No. Well, almost. For a moment.

The implication (near the end of the episode) is that he was having enough fun with Genesis that he almost stopped thinking about Tarima. And I think it's pretty explicit in their interactions they were borderline flirting.
 
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Genesis pushing Tarima back toward Caleb had a touch of guilt to it - not necessarily because she flirted with him, but perhaps because she had started it in order to manipulate him to pull off her caper.

You could tell that she was more hurt by his cruel words in the final episode than her fellow cadets. Her reaction to it was especially bitter.
 
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