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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x09 – “300th Night”

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I Made It The Fuck Up Quarterly
Haha. Even if it were a redress...WTH cares???? Trek has been doing this literally for DECADES. It's part of it's charm and doesn't detract from the story at all. It actually fun to see. I mentioned I have been watching the Walton's. The locations in California that they used for Walton's exteriors...they used them for episodes in the south Pacific literally just down the road from the Walton's Home.. 😂....still a great show and it was effective in telling the story. So this kind of stuff should be the least of people's worries.
 
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The nightclub was a set.

Was it? I may have missed that in articles, could you provide a link to where this is stated.

And the others were actually a single location shoot stretched to cover multiple episodes. (Specifically the University of Waterloo) Which is why they stopped doing outdoor scenes in the back half of the season.

Which is quite a different definition than your original request to name episodes with location shoots, which Michael did correctly

As was said before, people choosing to ignore things do not stop them from existing.

And you have a habit of making very broad claims, and refusing to provide evidence to back those claims up.
 
The nightclub was a set.
No, it wasn’t. As @Turtletrekker correctly states, it was filmed in a real nightclub in Toronto called DPRTMNT. Why do you claim these things with so much conviction, just to so easily been proven wrong? Wouldn’t it make more sense to not just assume these things and check before making any definitive statement about whether they are doing location shoots or not?

And the others were actually a single location shoot stretched to cover multiple episodes. (Specifically the University of Waterloo) Which is why they stopped doing outdoor scenes in the back half of the season.
And? You originally claimed “they can't even afford to do location shoots”, which has been thoroughly disproven at this point. Why not simply say something like “Yeah, you know, you’re right. They actually did more location shooting than I realized”?

As was said before, people choosing to ignore things do not stop them from existing.
What the hell does that even mean? Do you still want to claim the cadet quarters set is a redress? You wouldn’t be able to produce even a shred of evidence supporting that, since just from looking at them it’s plain as day that they are different sets. :confused:
 
The giant dropoff in extra's, constant graphic mistakes, and low quality set reuses.
graphics mistakes have nothing to do with budget lol.

One of the showrunners even said in an interview their budget wasn't big at all.

I don't think the budget was pulled, they're just spreading it out.
As was said before, people choosing to ignore things do not stop them from existing.
The set doesn't look like a redress.
 
Gina Yashere has a pretty active career outside of SFA. I think she mentioned in an interview that she had scheduling conflicts for the latter half of the season.
She lives in Costa Rica, so seems like she wouldn’t want to fly up and spend 5 hours in makeup for any background shot nonsense, although in such cases, I feel like they should pick a day when she’s on set and in costume anyway, and shoot like three little background shots of her shouting at a cadet or leading a group run or chasing that damn fur fly to use in episodes she’s not available for.
 
She lives in Costa Rica, so seems like she wouldn’t want to fly up and spend 5 hours in makeup for any background shot nonsense, although in such cases, I feel like they should pick a day when she’s on set and in costume anyway, and shoot like three little background shots of her shouting at a cadet or leading a group run or chasing that damn fur fly to use in episodes she’s not available for.
If I recall correctly, she lived in Altadena while filming the first season, but she lost her home along with Brent Spiner and others during the Altadena fire last year and moved to Costa Rica in between seasons.
 
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Trying to match the shooting location for the scenes outside the “Academy” nightclub, I found out that it actually seems to be the main entrance to the real DPRTMNT nightclub. Notice the identical graffiti on the column next to the entrance that’s also visible behind Tarima. And the apartment building with balconies, fence and small trees you can see behind them when they are kissing can be spotted in that same location.

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Trying to match the shooting location for the scenes outside the “Academy” nightclub, I found out that it actually seems to be the main entrance to the real DPRTMNT nightclub. Notice the identical graffiti on the column next to the entrance that’s also visible behind Tarima. And the apartment building with balconies, fence and small trees you can see behind them when they are kissing can be spotted in that same location.

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Scroll down to see the pictures of the interior shooting locations.
Yeah, I saw those. Pretty easy to recognize as the place where they shot those nightclub interior scenes for “Series Acclimation Mil”. What I wasn’t sure about was whether they filmed the outside there as well, because really, they could have been filmed at a completely different location. But no, it’s the actual entrance. :lol:
 
Yeah, I saw those. Pretty easy to recognize as the place where they shot those nightclub interior scenes for “Series Acclimation Mil”. What I wasn’t sure about was whether they filmed the outside there as well, because really, they could have been filmed at a completely different location. But no, it’s the actual entrance. :lol:
No! It was on a set!
 
Wrong again.

First of all, might want to give a flashing screen warning if you're going to link to one like that.

Seconds, thanks for the correction.


And? You originally claimed “they can't even afford to do location shoots”, which has been thoroughly disproven at this point. Why not simply say something like “Yeah, you know, you’re right. They actually did more location shooting than I realized”?
Not in this thread I didn't, and certainly not in the post you were replying to.




I'm sure Fateor will be here with a mea culpa real soon.
Your drive by sniping is starting to bore me.
 
Not in this thread I didn't, and certainly not in the post you were replying to.
Right. Nor did I say you did. You made that claim in last week’s episode thread here. Then you made a related, similarly baseless claim in this thread (“the show had it's [sic] budget pulled out from under it a couple episodes into filming”) and that’s why I referenced it here. What do you want to say, that nonsensical claims in one thread somehow lose validity in another? Your original claim is simply wrong, however much you don’t like it and try to deflect from that fact.

By the way, your claim that the location shootings in the episodes “Kids These Days”, “Beta Test”, “Vitus Reflux” and “Vox in Excelso” “were actually a single location shoot stretched to cover multiple episodes” (made in this thread here) is also wrong. It might be true for the location footage from “Beta Test” and “Vitus Reflux” (although, citation certainly needed), but the other episodes were obviously shot at different locations.

Look, I’m not saying the show has a super big budget and that they are packing these shows with lavish new sets every week, extensive locations shootings and a fuckton of background extras or whatever. Heck, quite the opposite actually: In interviews producer Noga Landau has been pretty open about the show not having a huge budget, saying the following:
“I saw some people conjecturing online about what our budget is and I was like, whoa, I wish that was our budget. So much of making Star Trek has always been: we’ve got to get really clever because we don’t have as much as people think we have. You know, that being said, we are so grateful for what we do have and and we squeeze out every penny that we can of it.”
She goes on to talk about them shifting the focus to smaller character stories and bottle shows because of that more moderate budget.

But the narrative that you seem to prefer (i.e. the budget was reduced a couple episodes into filming) is simply not reflected by anything that anyone in a position of authority seemed to have claimed anywhere. Unless you have any sources that don’t just amount to “Trust me, bro”.

As for “low quality set reuses”: They heavily redressed the shuttle set for use as the prisoner transport in the premiere. That’s the one actual set redress I’m aware of. Then they used the Atrium set in last week’s episode (in a heavily stylized fashion, both in terms of lighting and effects); it’s at least debatable whether that’s a “low quality” reuse or pretty clever. And some of the class rooms seem to be the same set with different graphics on the volumetric display surrounding the set, which I’m sure ain’t exactly cheap, nor is it something I would call “low quality”. But other than those there don’t seem to be any redressed or reused sets. Heck, in this very episode we had an elaborate, huge-ass alien market set, purpose-built for this episode, filled with dozens of extras. Not a reuse, not a redress. So please stop it with this nonsensical claim.
 
23rd century starships like Kirk's first Enterprise could glass the entire inhabited surface of a planet as evidenced by General Order 24. But like CorporalCaptain pointed out the enemy needs to be even more powerful than the heroes in order to set the bad guys up as a legitimate threat.

Otherwise, why would our heroes sweat so much when going up against them? Nus Braka has to be the one with the upper hand or we don't have a threat to the Federation.
 
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