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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x04 – “Vox in Excelso”

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  • 10 - Excellent!

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8/10

I have not been particularly enamored with this show but this was a damn good episode. The debate stuff was not the best but I can appreciate some of the character development that has gone on so far. Caleb wasn't a pouty jackass and kept his shirt on for a change. Is Jay-Den supposed to be autistic or just have some extreme social anxiety? His voice is hard to follow at times. Although I can empathize with the public speaking issue. Klingons don't have tear ducts, but they also are supposed to have purple blood so I guess we can overlook that bit of TUC canon. After Praxis I really doubt even the Klingons would have kept using dilithium reactors on Qo'noS. The fate of the Klingons does really drive home how awful The Burn was because after S3 of DSC we kind of glossed it over.
 
. Is Jay-Den supposed to be autistic or just have some extreme social anxiety? His voice is hard to follow at times. Although I can empathize with the public speaking issue. Klingons don't have tear ducts, but they also are supposed to have purple blood so I guess we can overlook that bit of TUC canon.
I felt his pain at public speaking. I was always a nervous wreck.

Not having tear ducts doesn't mean you can't produce tears. (Some animals produce tears but lack tear ducts). Legends say (Well TNG's "Birthright") that Kahless filled the ocean with his tears.

They have red blood or purple/pink blood, depending on the episode/movie.
 
Am I dating myself here or just remember old comedy bits but is a fear of public speaking no longer a fear?

Like, a comedian had a a whole bit on the statistics showing that Americans top fear one that was public speaking, with dying being number two on the list. Meaning, at s funeral more people wanted to be in the casket than giving the eulogy.

Just me?
 
People are allowed to just not like public speaking, they dont have to be neuro diverse.
For sure, but he speaks that way even amongst his chums.
Am I dating myself here or just remember old comedy bits but is a fear of public speaking no longer a fear?
I would say it is less of a concern for the TikTok generation constantly taking videos of themselves posting for all to see than Millenials and older. I still detest being on video.
 
8/10

I have not been particularly enamored with this show but this was a damn good episode. The debate stuff was not the best but I can appreciate some of the character development that has gone on so far. Caleb wasn't a pouty jackass and kept his shirt on for a change. Is Jay-Den supposed to be autistic or just have some extreme social anxiety? His voice is hard to follow at times. Although I can empathize with the public speaking issue. Klingons don't have tear ducts, but they also are supposed to have purple blood so I guess we can overlook that bit of TUC canon. After Praxis I really doubt even the Klingons would have kept using dilithium reactors on Qo'noS. The fate of the Klingons does really drive home how awful The Burn was because after S3 of DSC we kind of glossed it over.

I think Jayden has social anxiety.

Also Klingons not learning a damn thing from Praxis is on brand.
 
Odd Thought:

Were the Klingons members of the Federation when the Burn happened?

They mention the Federation mediating with their former subject races but if they were part of the Federation they wouldn't have subject races.
 
Odd Thought:

Were the Klingons members of the Federation when the Burn happened?

They mention the Federation mediating with their former subject races but if they were part of the Federation they wouldn't have subject races.

Previously on "This Thread"

The Last Starship states they were, that the only species left in the Milky Way not part of the Federation were the Gorn, who agreed to join at the precise moment of the Burn.

It also shows the Klingon Defence Force ships had been subsumed into Starfleet.

The Federation's peak was only 350 members, hardly the entire galactic community. I know comics aren't canon but if they say everyone bar Gorn was a member then someone didn't do background research.
 
Previously on "This Thread"

I read those comics and while they said "Everyone had joined but the Gorn", I don't think you need to assume they were being literal.

They could have just meant the Alpha Quadrant or even just figuratively.
 
The wording is, "The galaxy stands united under our banner, thousands of species united in a dream ... [snip] Only you stand alone ..."

I guess the language is loose enough, that i guess you could consider there were only 350 official members, but like Bajor and the Bolian Homeworld, hundreds/thousands more stood under Federation Protectorate status?
 
Were the Klingons members of the Federation when the Burn happened?
Daniels had mentioned in Enterprise that the Klingons had joined the Federation, that does not mean they were still members by the time the burn happened, they could have left again.
 
People are allowed to just not like public speaking, they dont have to be neuro diverse.
I took public speaking in college and was involved in debate in high school and I was still occasionally a deer in headlights before talking to a group of people.
 
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