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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”

Give it up for Robert Picardo folks!

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 14 8.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 28 16.6%
  • 8

    Votes: 55 32.5%
  • 7

    Votes: 33 19.5%
  • 6

    Votes: 13 7.7%
  • 5

    Votes: 6 3.6%
  • 4

    Votes: 8 4.7%
  • 3

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • 1 - Terrible!

    Votes: 6 3.6%

  • Total voters
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The interesting thing I find about Kerrice Brooks is she's most well known as a dancer (was a background dancer for Kanye West and Billie Eilish in the past), which isn't something you'd think would work well with SAM's characterization. I'm sure they'll find a way to work it in eventually, though.
Considering the first trailer that came out for the show featured her dancing in one of the quarters I’d say that’s a pretty good bet. ;)

But also, how can she be a professional dancer when she’s clearly a “fat woman”? :vulcan:
 
Okay, I gave this another viewing and I have to say, liked it much better the second time around. So much better that I upped my rating to a 7/10.

I still think the overreliance on callbacks is a thing, but it's also telling a story that's more than the sum of those parts, and it's a reasonably well-structured story in which everyone's motives and the basic moving parts make sense.

I'm also appreciating the characters much more:
  • Yes, the EMH's appearance is leaning very heavily on nostalgia, and yes, the "aging subroutine" thing to explain why Picardo looks so different is probably a sign that a new, different character was warranted. That said, of course Picardo is still great. So is Holly Hunter as Nahla Ake, for all that "Lanthanite" and/or "part Lanthanite" is plainly becoming another cheat code for explaining older actors in this role or that one.
  • Caleb works better than I was giving him credit for originally (and holy crap that guy is built), the early going of the odd-couple dynamic with Darem does work and is fun (I got a good laugh out of "Asshole Number One to Asshole Number Two"), and Genesis and Jay-Den and SAM are all fun. (I don't know why Genesis has a name that sounds like it came out of a Stripper Name Generator? But she's instantly likeable. All of them are.) Lura Thok is just as fun as she was the first time around.
  • (Oh, and I completely missed Becky Lynch's bit part on the first go-round. Nifty!)
  • Although Nus Braka may be a bit of a two-dimensional mustache twirler, I do withdraw my indictment of him being a mash-up of two earlier characters. He's his own villain. I don't know that he's a particularly compelling one, but Paul Giamatti certainly makes him as memorable as anyone could hope to do with the very little screen time he has to work with.
Still flawed, but it's significantly more effective than I was at first giving it credit for.
 
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The moment people start complaining about things being "woke" -- especially in Star Trek --is the moment that I stop taking them seriously as adults.
i know. Even as a child watching Trek growing up in the 90s, I knew it was all about inclusion. There's a place for everyone in the future. Undiagnosed (at the time) neurodivergent me loved that about Trek.

Apparently, grown adults on Youtube don't understand Trek is all about tolerance and diversity and always has been
 
Well I read many bad reviews about the first episode and it seems many people hate it but actually I enjoyed watching it and yes, I like it. It is not as good as Strange New Worlds or Lower Decks but it is far better than Discovery or Picard. So I give this show a chance and see where it goes to. And I am glad to see the Doctor again ;)

if people do not like starfleet academy then they should go to the many fan fiction web sites and create there own storys of there verisons of starfleet academy and or they should have there own tv studios and make your own verisons of star trek starfleet academy
 
The interesting thing I find about Kerrice Brooks is she's most well known as a dancer (was a background dancer for Kanye West and Billie Eilish in the past), which isn't something you'd think would work well with SAM's characterization. I'm sure they'll find a way to work it in eventually, though.
She's gonna teach someone to dance like Bev and La'an did. ;)
 
My husband dislikes it on principle; I'm simply here for the spaceships and whatever action the show can provide of the "pew pew" variety.

While I understand and can sympathize with the 'woke garbage' side of things (the low viewership and numbers for the show, sadly, support this narrative) I'm not really bothered by it. The only thing that does bother me to an extent are the "body positive" characters serving on starships. Lura Thok doesn't bother me at all, it's more SAM and LT Rork. I'm not going to delve into the whys, but that's where I stand on it :shrug:
The negative reception has nothing really to do with any kind of woke content, its just people not caring anymore. You can tell this by looking at the youtube like to dislike ratio. I have done studying on the subject over time and came to one conclusion so far. A very big gap between the 2 is indicative of lower viewer count.

So an example would of the low side would be the live action snow white movie. The movie bombed horrible at the box office. Now this is blamed on toxic fans and youtube grifters, though my other example debunks that

The other example is the barbie movie. The same youtuber grifters tried their hardest to go after this movie, including very large channels that normally do not go after media ( at least directly) but the movie was a wild success second biggest release of the year.

All this indicates is that the general audience what every big media publisher aims for just does not care anymore. They do what the fans here wish the haters would do, stop watching.
 
O Brien was not fat, unless my memory fails me. who is Craig? Also, there was plenty of mockery about scotty.
Ensign Craig was a background bridge officer on the Sutherland in Redemption part 2. Was there any demand that Scotty be removed from any future film because he was of an inappropriate build to serve in Starfleet? Or that his presence was woke pandering? I would state that the people making these complaints today happily watch the TOS films and don't feel the same way about them. If they do of course I will retract my assumption and they can just be horrible people and not horrible hypocrites.
O'Brien had a bit of a dad bod, but he definitely wasn't fat.
He's a little bit chubby which is more than enough for folks to lose their shit over in the modern day shows. Not model thin is morbidly obese in their eyes.
 
The "San Francisco" needle drop strikes me as maybe the corniest thing in Trek ever. Top 5, for sure.

Worked for me anyway. Corny actually works for Trek.

I've watched the scene over and over on YouTube. Love it every time.

And I'll cop to breaking out in a grin when I watched it the first time and realized just what song was starting up.

it was a great moment that fit the moment perfectly. Just the bit of uplift we needed as the ship finally reaches its destination.
 
I've watched the scene over and over on YouTube. Love it every time.
Same!
Well, on P+, I haven't found a youtube upload. I search Starfleet Academy San Francisco and I just get rage bait reviews.

Edit: Of course I search now and fine one
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I only noticed after like my 5th watch that you can see tractor beams coming from the Drydocks to grab the nacelles
 
Ensign Craig was a background bridge officer on the Sutherland in Redemption part 2. Was there any demand that Scotty be removed from any future film because he was of an inappropriate build to serve in Starfleet? Or that his presence was woke pandering? I would state that the people making these complaints today happily watch the TOS films and don't feel the same way about them. If they do of course I will retract my assumption and they can just be horrible people and not horrible hypocrites.

He's a little bit chubby which is more than enough for folks to lose their shit over in the modern day shows. Not model thin is morbidly obese in their eyes.
I mean when they were saying that about scotty is far too late, he long stopped acting in star trek. I't rare today, mostly because its ancient history now. It's been over 20 years since he died, and 32 years since last acted in trek.

I disagree with Miles. His body is smaller than what I see on STA.
 
Worth noting on Berman Trek they made the dudes wear girdles when they got too fat.

We know they had Robert Duncan McNeill and Garrett Wang wear them on VOY. I'm pretty sure Frakes, Brooks, and Meaney all did as well, so all of them were a bit heavier than they looked onscreen.
 
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