With as long as Cheronians live, they could have used Virgil in both shows. 
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”
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Every episode is just Cadet Virgil, Captain Pelia and the Doctor talking about how great the 23rd and 24th centuries were.With as long as Cheronians live, they could have used Virgil in both shows.
The Belean and the Lokaish
My favorite Jeff Goldblum and Ben Vereen series.
Any prime Lokai could be a Mirror Bele
And historically, the military of many countries, including our own, have ALSO acted as explorers. They funded expeditions, actually went on expeditions, were in charge of them, etc.
We have the Army Corps of Engineers. Starfleet has their Corps of Engineers. (Carol Marcus said it took them months to build those tunnels in TWOK.)
We have USAMRIID. Starfleet Medical also researches diseases and infectious agents.
The military does relief missions after disasters. Quite a few episodes have our crews performing relief missions after disasters.
The military has a rank structure. Starfleet has a rank structure.
The military have court martials. We've seen Starfleet have court martials.
The military fight wars. Starfleet has fought MANY wars.
"I'm a soldier, not a diplomat."
Captain Kirk, "ERRAND OF MERCY"
Short version: Starfleet IS a military.
That one was pretty awful.It's Star Trek's sonic screwdriver.
But we did get the great episodes with Barclay and his transporter fear in TNG.
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Lieutenant Barclay faces his fear of transporting, but now he thinks that he's being attacked by a creature inside the transporter beam. "Captain's log, Stardate 46041.1. We have located the USS Yosemite, a Starfleet science vessel sent to the Igo sector to observe a remote plasma streamer. The...memory-alpha.fandom.com
So was the British Navy.
Starfleet is explicitly military. People are contrary about that because Gene Roddenberry told them to be, but there's no getting around it.
A really solid start for me - nothing groundbreaking yet, but the casting is so strong that it lifts the whole thing above expectations. The feel lf the show reminds me of Discovery’s later seasons, but with the benefit of hindsight about what worked and what didn’t. It also has the feel of a spiritual successor to Prodigy. Introducing the Athena bridge crew one by one felt like a deliberate response to past criticism about Disco’s under‑explored ensemble… though that effect was undercut when the crew then proceeded to do essentially nothing during the first big crisis, my only real criticism of episode one.
For a show I wasn’t exactly clamouring for, I’m surprisingly on board so far. Yes, the way the cadets were woven into solving the central problem while the seasoned bridge officers stood around doing very little was a bit convoluted. But the characters are vibrant, and the actors really make them shine.
There’s enough here to convince me the series has real potential. Some interesting narrative strands are emerging, and the excellent casting is doing a lot of heavy lifting. As a first episode, it achieved what it needed to: it proved there's something worth sticking around for.
And, shallow observation - but my god, the show looks absolutely stunning. That was almost like watching a movie. I also enjoyed that the men's uniforms seem to be doing the skin-tight work that women endured during 90s ST.
For a show I wasn’t exactly clamouring for, I’m surprisingly on board so far. Yes, the way the cadets were woven into solving the central problem while the seasoned bridge officers stood around doing very little was a bit convoluted. But the characters are vibrant, and the actors really make them shine.
There’s enough here to convince me the series has real potential. Some interesting narrative strands are emerging, and the excellent casting is doing a lot of heavy lifting. As a first episode, it achieved what it needed to: it proved there's something worth sticking around for.
And, shallow observation - but my god, the show looks absolutely stunning. That was almost like watching a movie. I also enjoyed that the men's uniforms seem to be doing the skin-tight work that women endured during 90s ST.
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So I did some calculations with the assistance of ChatGPT to determine how fast the Athena would need to be to travel from Bajor to Earth in 15 hours (the stated time of travel on screen).
I've estimated Bajor to be ~65 ly from Sol and used that as the basis for my time and distance.
The result was a sustained warp velocity of Warp 9.99998, or 38,073c. This makes sense given how fast warp drives are in this period and I think it shows good progression in technology from the 23rd Century to the 32nd/33rd Century. This also means that conventional warp drives can hit transwarp velocities, as I believe Warp 9.99998 falls between Transwarp 13 and 14 somewhere (on the transwarp scale where 10, 20, 30, etc. are skipped because multiples of 10 are infinite velocity).
I've estimated Bajor to be ~65 ly from Sol and used that as the basis for my time and distance.
The result was a sustained warp velocity of Warp 9.99998, or 38,073c. This makes sense given how fast warp drives are in this period and I think it shows good progression in technology from the 23rd Century to the 32nd/33rd Century. This also means that conventional warp drives can hit transwarp velocities, as I believe Warp 9.99998 falls between Transwarp 13 and 14 somewhere (on the transwarp scale where 10, 20, 30, etc. are skipped because multiples of 10 are infinite velocity).
Do we definitely know Athena left Bajor for Earth? Or did Ake travel from Bajor to pick up Caleb and then travel to the Athena, after all Ake's belongings are brought from Bajor to the Athena, not "the surface".
Ake travels from Bajor to the Torothan prison, and then to the Athena, but i didnt catch any reference to them departing from Bajor?
Ake travels from Bajor to the Torothan prison, and then to the Athena, but i didnt catch any reference to them departing from Bajor?
I do intend to rewatch a little later today, but if I recall correctly, the establishing shot of Bajor at the very beginning didn't have all of the starship and space station activity that we saw later when they arrived at the Athena.
Yeah - thats what I noticed, so do they actually depart from the Trappist 5 Shipyard?
I was going by the fact that Bajor is the previously mentioned planet, they pass the badlands shortly after leaving for Earth, and it's the only journey start location that makes sense. Even if the ship was built at Trappist (like the dedication plaque says) and they departed from Trappist, that is about 20 light years closer to Earth and wouldn't have them passing the badlands to get to Earth.
Yeah, the Badlands mention was kind of a head scratcher in general since according to the on screen map the Badlands shouldn't be anywhere near the path the Athena would have taken to go from Bajor to Earth.
Eh, this only works to a degree. If you introduce something game changing into your universe, it is kinda thoughtful to take a moment to let your audience know why it isn't an option the next time. Else you're just creating confusion and mistrust amongst your fans.
Dude, do you ever Star Trek????
That explains why I'm confused most of the time.Dude, do you ever Star Trek????
Well I read many bad reviews about the first episode and it seems many people hate it but actually I enjoyed watching it and yes, I like it. It is not as good as Strange New Worlds or Lower Decks but it is far better than Discovery or Picard. So I give this show a chance and see where it goes to. And I am glad to see the Doctor again
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