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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”
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If you post again we'll know you're hate watching it in order to come here and complain.
You’ve been so gloom and doom about everything with the prerelease material about this show though. I’ve not seen you say one solitary positive thing. It’s all been criticisms. That’s, of course, your right. But why would I expect anything different from your opinion about the actual episodes?
If I can manage to not hate watch Prodigy I think I can manage not to hate watch this show
. If I want to watch a SciFi themed CW style show I'll watch Legends of Tomorrow, which somehow has better writing 
I also think that anyone who was going to rush to watch it at this point would be doing so on P+
How do you figure 28k views as of this afternoon means it bombed?
... or crying.
It’s that new math.
The new kind of math that introduces a loathing factor into the equation before even solving it.
15 years not 50. She resigned after the events of the flashback at the beginning when Caleb whas a child (6 years old). He's 21 now.
Yes I mentioned "waiting to see actual ratings" in my post that you quoted.
Im talking about new viewers. Thats the reason for giving it free. Paramount wants to attract new patrons. They specifically skewed this show younger to bring in new fans. I think the mistake they made is they linked it to all the other series. For instance a new younger fan may not want to watch Star Trek Deep Space Nine. If they want to get new younger fans they need to reboot star trek. Start fresh.
A couple days ago someone was complaining about "tic tac toe" shaved into the side of Giamati's head was having nothing to do the with future, but I was pretty sure I knew what it meant... But then I got Distracted.
15 years ago Michelle Paradise, in Canada, produced a Saphic sitcom called Exe's and Ohs.
This is a either a secret coded message to all the lesbians, or a secret coded message to all the Canadians, or a secret coded message to all the Lesbian Canadians... To rally?
15 years ago Michelle Paradise, in Canada, produced a Saphic sitcom called Exe's and Ohs.
This is a either a secret coded message to all the lesbians, or a secret coded message to all the Canadians, or a secret coded message to all the Lesbian Canadians... To rally?
The only people who are going to jump on Star Trek the day it premieres? Are Star Trek fans. Again, people have lives. They haven’t been looking forward to it. Some might find it interesting but they’re not going to stay up until 1am just to watch a new Star Trek show. Unless they’re Star Trek fans,
No, they don't.
The old stuff does fine. I read and hear from younger people trying out Trek. The only barrier is no one wants to talk with them about it and fans just talk at them.
I misheard the #'s spoken on screen then.
I’m happy and relieved to report that I enjoyed the premiere episode very much! Heck, this is easily the best pilot episode of the Kurtzman era. It’s not perfect, but I found it to be better than I thought it would be. Had expected it to feel very much like Discovery, but actually it’s much closer to the tone of Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds. The comedy (mostly) works for me, as do the quieter, more emotional beats. There’s definitely the sort of quick and snappy kind of dialog that we’ve gotten used to from the modern Trek shows, but they also allow for quiet and slow moments with more gravitas. And I love that it takes its time and doesn’t rush things in the first episode, the pacing is great!
The entire cast is spot-on. And although I expected that I would need a few episodes to warm to Holly Hunter’s Nahla Ake, I loved her off the bat. As someone else here said earlier, I appreciate that they’ve avoided writing her as perfect, but show her to make some flawed decisions. Much more interesting character that way. I’m honestly surprised how much Hunter is obviously committed to the part. Hopefully she stays on for the full run.
One of the standouts for me is Lura Thok, who’s everything I hoped she would be. Gina Yashere just seems to own the part and had some of the best funny bits in both this episode and “Beta Test”. I’m looking forward to learning more about her. She somehow seems very intriguing. From the cadets, I thought Genesis, Sam and Jay-Den were nicely introduced and had some good moments. I found them to be instantly likeable and can’t wait to get to know them better.
Despite his inexperience as an actor Sandro Rosta is doing very well as Caleb. He’s playing as this annoying know-it-all prick in one moment, but then you can almost observe how it makes click and he seamlessly becomes a decent guy who wants to do the right thing. His story is genuinely tragic (and very timely, considering the experiences of refugee kids all around the world) and I wonder if they will dare to go for the full heartbreak of him not finding his mother alive.
The weakest part for me was actually the whole Nus Braka detour. You can tell that Paul Giamatti is giving it his all, but ultimately the character feels too insignificant. There’s a kernel of an interesting idea in there in that originally he genuinely seemed to want to help Caleb’s mother, and I wonder if it wouldn’t have been better to lean more into that aspect and have him be less of a black-and-white cartoon villain and more of a nuanced character in grey tones. He doesn’t feel at all like he will survive this initial story arc for the first season.
Visually the show looks stunning and I love the Athena design inside and out. The music is brilliant and I think it’s just great how noticeable it is. I’m sure there’s another million little things I liked, noticed or found weird, but for now that’s all I got.
This was well worth the wait. Hope the rest of the season lives up to the hype of the premiere!
The entire cast is spot-on. And although I expected that I would need a few episodes to warm to Holly Hunter’s Nahla Ake, I loved her off the bat. As someone else here said earlier, I appreciate that they’ve avoided writing her as perfect, but show her to make some flawed decisions. Much more interesting character that way. I’m honestly surprised how much Hunter is obviously committed to the part. Hopefully she stays on for the full run.
One of the standouts for me is Lura Thok, who’s everything I hoped she would be. Gina Yashere just seems to own the part and had some of the best funny bits in both this episode and “Beta Test”. I’m looking forward to learning more about her. She somehow seems very intriguing. From the cadets, I thought Genesis, Sam and Jay-Den were nicely introduced and had some good moments. I found them to be instantly likeable and can’t wait to get to know them better.
Despite his inexperience as an actor Sandro Rosta is doing very well as Caleb. He’s playing as this annoying know-it-all prick in one moment, but then you can almost observe how it makes click and he seamlessly becomes a decent guy who wants to do the right thing. His story is genuinely tragic (and very timely, considering the experiences of refugee kids all around the world) and I wonder if they will dare to go for the full heartbreak of him not finding his mother alive.
The weakest part for me was actually the whole Nus Braka detour. You can tell that Paul Giamatti is giving it his all, but ultimately the character feels too insignificant. There’s a kernel of an interesting idea in there in that originally he genuinely seemed to want to help Caleb’s mother, and I wonder if it wouldn’t have been better to lean more into that aspect and have him be less of a black-and-white cartoon villain and more of a nuanced character in grey tones. He doesn’t feel at all like he will survive this initial story arc for the first season.
Visually the show looks stunning and I love the Athena design inside and out. The music is brilliant and I think it’s just great how noticeable it is. I’m sure there’s another million little things I liked, noticed or found weird, but for now that’s all I got.
This was well worth the wait. Hope the rest of the season lives up to the hype of the premiere!
It also wasnt available globally on YouTube, so any viewing figures there wont reflect global audience via P+
Having him be a more nuanced character driven to darkness by Starfleet's own fall to dictatorship like extremes would have made him a much better character overall.
Sadly what the writers seem to want is a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Each has separate skills they bring to the table. So not really "Wesley-Sue" material
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