Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x20 - "Supernova, Part 2"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Prodigy' started by Commander Richard, Dec 28, 2022.

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  1. Yule Cat

    Yule Cat Geek Grrl Premium Member

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    I love this show! And I love all the speculation too. :)

    It certainly was lovely enough!
     
  2. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    You know what, fine, you want to claim something that no legal team would allow to happen actually happened.

    Prove it.
     
  3. DaveyNY

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    I think perhaps you missed the part where Mark had his own lawyer to do the contract with CBS and that was one of his stipulations. (retaining the design rights)

    And the proof has already been given to you in the fact that STO had to work with Mark as well as CBS to get it in the game, as well as it was one of the only ships from STO that couldn't be created as a actual physical model.

    Not to mention the fact that Eagle Moss also had to get permission from Rademaker to include it in their starship line.
     
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  4. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    ....quoting facts
     
  5. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    We've given you proof already.
     
  6. Ogrebear

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    Janeway's sacrifice and the destruction of the ship seemed the only logical conclusion, though perhaps once they knew about the Living Construct they should have thought of it earlier which would have saved a lot of lives.

    That was a lot of ships and crew dead- even if some beamed off to friendly ships- some of them where destroyed with Vulcan wreckage in space.

    [​IMG]

    Would be fantastic if this battle is referenced, or better visited in Lower Decks and the Cerritos crew help recover people and ships. Would allow them to explain the fate of the Sovereign, Enterprise, Defiant, Centaur etc.

    How did the kids get from space to Earth then? Esp with a load of debris in the water?

    Good 'Picard speech' from Janeway on the kids behalf there.

    How does the Prodigy Uniforms fit in given we saw another one at Starfleet HQ in Picard in what, the next year or so? What is up with Starfleet's uniform designers?!

    [​IMG]

    The Enderprizians have made it to the Academy? Cool. Did the Dauntless make second contact?

    Recruited by the Janeway herself for her Voyager-A crew heh? Guess the know where Season 2 is going.
     
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  7. DaveyNY

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    Apparently, there's a book coming out that will explain that.
     
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  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's post scarcity.
     
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  9. Fateor

    Fateor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I think you missed the part where you claiming a thing doesn't make it fact.

    Nor does people misrepresenting some quotes.

    So if you want to continue claiming this, show me a direct statement from CBS/Paramount/Rademaker/Cryptic saying that Rademaker owns the right to the Vesta class. Otherwise I am just going to rule it false.
     
  10. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    Heh ... At this point why should I.
    You can't prove that it isn't true, so what's the point of continuing the debate.

    You deny it based on your own beliefs with no proof, while I on the other hand, have shown provable facts simply by looking it up on the Internet and my experience of actually talking with Mark years ago on the STO forums.

    Sorry, but your denial means nothing.
     
  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I didn't misrepresent anything. It's clearly spelled out in the quotes.

    I did. What other negotiations could they be referring to in those quotes?
    The negotiations took several months, if CBS owned the design there would have been no negotiations over rights.

    Have some more
    https://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/1050720-ask-cryptic_-march-2012
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/1050440-ask-cryptic_-april-2012
    https://community.arcgames.com/en/news/star-trek-online/detail/1028910-ask-cryptic_-august-2012
    If CBS owned the design, they wouldn't even be talking with Mark.
    You have yet to post any solid proof otherwise.
     
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  12. Ogrebear

    Ogrebear Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Do you both realise that this extended ‘debate’ about the Vesta class that is not in this episode or even this series is totally detailing this thread?

    Maybe take it to PM or a STO thread please?
     
  13. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You're right, sorry.
     
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  14. Turtletrekker

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  16. Deks

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    Not just post scarcity. UFP recycles EVERYTHING (or at least 95-99% of everything).
    Old uniforms are literally thrown into the replicator to be converted back into energy which can then be stored and used to replicate something else at a different time.
    They aren't really wasteful.

    My guess is that uniforms can be changed pretty fast, and the kids usually just end up wearing what's deemed most appropriate. Perhaps the Protostar uniforms were a bit unique... starship grade training design.... whereas this one is for Academy initiates or warrant officers (por basically worn on SF HQ grounds (but the uniforms are pretty similar to the ones from the Protostar).
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    I imagine that they have trainee and acting cadets, similar to Wesley's "acting ensign" uniform that can be utilized to distinguish them amongst other officers. To quote Robert Heinlein "If someone ever saluted a third lieutenant the lighting must have been bad." It avoids that hassle :)
     
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  18. Ogrebear

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    Except it’s not just the Protostar uniforms, Janeway, the Judges, Etc all wear a tweaked LD uniform.

    Did the Cali class get the first version of this while the FC one was still in use c2380 then it’s refined in 2382 to the one Janeway and co have across the whole fleet?

    Problem is Picard, Raffi and Starfleet HQ are seen in a different uniform in 2385:

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    Did Starfleet change the whole fleet uniform again?
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Probably.
     
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  20. Tallguy

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    It makes you appreciate how consistent Trek tried to be while juggling DS9 / First Contact / VOY all at the same time.
     
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