To be fair, Picard basically did the same thing in “Best of Both Worlds” part 2 when he gave Data the hint on how to shut them down — and he didn’t even have the advantage of being noncorporeal. I’d imagine just a psychic link with the Collective is easier to break than a physical one, as seen in VOY “Unity.”
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x12 - "Let Sleeping Borg Lie"
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Zero was probably the only one who could resist, cause there's no body
You wouldn't see the physical parts of assimilation on a Nick show anyway, and I think they got close to the edge with the spinning claw approaching the bound victims, only for Jankom to steer it into fun by saying no haircut
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that they'd go full body horror on a kid's show, but I was thinking in terms of the subsumption of self. There's lots of ways to handwave it (Zero has experience with a hive mind, we don't know how the Borg react to [insert species here], maybe that's why we've never see a Medusan Borg, etc.), but it still didn't quite land for me.
Don't they sell those somewhere?Medusans are Species 802, encountered long before Humans!
Picard's cup?
I never understood the logic to have WEIRD head attachments.But these are just ridiculous
The Borg are supposed to be "Logical" when they attach parts to their drones for enhancement.
This seems rather "Slap-Dash" and the art direction went for Techno-Zombie-Horror for the sake of it.
I never understood the value of replacing a drones natural stereo-scopic vision from their natural two eyes. No wonder why drones move so stilted, like 60's zombies. They had their Stereo-scopic depth perception removed.
That seems fundamentally dumb. I could understand attaching the extra optical sensor on their forehead and add in some protective eye-wear / goggles to protect the drone's eyes.
Maybe some special protective headphone / audio sensors over the ears and a metal skull cap for protection (Drones don't need hair and all).
A Atmospheric filter for the nose/mouth area that can be modular.
But alot of the original attachments seem goofy and illogical.
Bodum
https://star-trek.design/mugs-teacups/bistro-cup-designed-by-carsten-jorgensen-for-bodum
I like that they wear their casual stuff on the ship, but don uniforms for away missions
https://star-trek.design/mugs-teacups/bistro-cup-designed-by-carsten-jorgensen-for-bodum
I like that they wear their casual stuff on the ship, but don uniforms for away missions
Dang, no sign of Barniss Frex in his little escape pod? RIP to a real one.
Fun episode, but it really suffered from the shorter runtime this show has to contend with.
Fun episode, but it really suffered from the shorter runtime this show has to contend with.
Doctor Noum, the most sarcastic Medical Officer you'll find in the fleet (portrayed by returning Voyager guest actor Jason Alexander):
"You're welcome."
Seems so weird to see Janeway interacting with a physician who isn't holographic. Unless he is, and we haven't been informed so.
"You're welcome."
Seems so weird to see Janeway interacting with a physician who isn't holographic. Unless he is, and we haven't been informed so.
FFS, it was just a way to ease the job of the animators so they wouldn't have to create a full face.
Yes.
Okay, serious answer, while It would officially count as episode 12, I've seen some places refer to it as episode 11. So, whatever is your preference, I guess.
It was decent. Kinda heard the whole "I have my own collective" speech before though but I guess for a Kids show it's a good message to repeat. I also liked they made the Borg more menacing than Voyager but less dark than Picard.
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Baby's first Borg I guess? A pretty shallow episode overall.
There's essentially two sections here - crisis of the week and arcwork. The entire first act is more or less serving the needs of the arc as a whole, with us first checking in with the kids, then with the real Janeway. Then of course we come back to real Janeway again at the end of the episode for a final scene. All of the arcwork is...fine. The real issue here is the characters are learning things that we as viewers already know, which means there's zero drama. They can gussy it up a bit with character dynamics, letting us see the responses each one has to the revelations, but it's nothing which is surprising to us at all.
That leaves less than 15 minutes for the actual plot of the week, which is basically the kids stumble over the Borg. That's pretty much it. They somehow find a cube floating in random space (what are the chances of that?), explore it looking for a way to defuse the MacGuffin, and then realize the Borg are going to be no help at all. There's no overall forward movement here - they're right back to where they were at the start of the episode, save for knowing there's no way to actually deactivate the device.
I will give the episode some credit though. First, unlike last week, they remember that having a character arc is important, and Zero gets a bit of focus here. They start the episode feeling isolated and guilt ridden regarding the damage they did, go through the trials of being temporarily assimilated, and realize the "Magic of Friendship" is powerful enough to turn back. It's all extremely cursory because of the short runtime, but it's there. Also, I think they did a good job finding a way to make the Borg creepy yet still child-appropriate - and I'm happy in animation we finally get to see non-humanoid Borg.
Still, this may be one of the most forgettable episodes of Prodigy yet. It's basically just there to introduce the crew to the Borg. I guess it would hit different for children, but as adults versed in Trek, there's very little (other than Zero's arc) worth holding onto here.
There's essentially two sections here - crisis of the week and arcwork. The entire first act is more or less serving the needs of the arc as a whole, with us first checking in with the kids, then with the real Janeway. Then of course we come back to real Janeway again at the end of the episode for a final scene. All of the arcwork is...fine. The real issue here is the characters are learning things that we as viewers already know, which means there's zero drama. They can gussy it up a bit with character dynamics, letting us see the responses each one has to the revelations, but it's nothing which is surprising to us at all.
That leaves less than 15 minutes for the actual plot of the week, which is basically the kids stumble over the Borg. That's pretty much it. They somehow find a cube floating in random space (what are the chances of that?), explore it looking for a way to defuse the MacGuffin, and then realize the Borg are going to be no help at all. There's no overall forward movement here - they're right back to where they were at the start of the episode, save for knowing there's no way to actually deactivate the device.
I will give the episode some credit though. First, unlike last week, they remember that having a character arc is important, and Zero gets a bit of focus here. They start the episode feeling isolated and guilt ridden regarding the damage they did, go through the trials of being temporarily assimilated, and realize the "Magic of Friendship" is powerful enough to turn back. It's all extremely cursory because of the short runtime, but it's there. Also, I think they did a good job finding a way to make the Borg creepy yet still child-appropriate - and I'm happy in animation we finally get to see non-humanoid Borg.
Still, this may be one of the most forgettable episodes of Prodigy yet. It's basically just there to introduce the crew to the Borg. I guess it would hit different for children, but as adults versed in Trek, there's very little (other than Zero's arc) worth holding onto here.
I liked the tie-in with "Endgame," that the cube had been put to sleep by future-Janeway's virus. The mention that the nanoprobes, specifically, were wrecked, was a good handwave for why the crew wasn't immediately assimilated as soon as a drone got close enough to touch them.
@NCC-73515: Decraniation like those poor souls on Jedha over in the Star Wars 'verse?
You know, I've been kind of ambivalent on a lot of starship designs from the newer shows but the Protostar is a great looking ship. I like it better than the Sovereign and wish this was the E-E!
This has apparently confused Crave in Canada, because they have Episode 10 as Asylum, and episode 11 which was added today is also Asylum. Though the episode description is correct.
So I can't watch this new episode yet
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Prodigy does such an excellent job of tying their stories into the larger Trek continuity, without burdening the actual episode with overexplaining those ties. The focus here is wisely kept on our episodic adventure of the week, but, for anyone who knows the larger narrative, this non-functional cube fits so perfectly between the events of "Endgame" and the Artifact in S1 "Picard." Clever writing.
I was a bit surprised Prodigy even used the Borg at all, in that they are so viscerally terrifying I thought the kids show would have to leave them on the shelf. But I had a lot of fun with this one, while also thinking I need to push back the date I introduce my nephew to this show a little further...
The interior of a Borg cube has never looked better -- what stunning visuals.
I was a bit surprised Prodigy even used the Borg at all, in that they are so viscerally terrifying I thought the kids show would have to leave them on the shelf. But I had a lot of fun with this one, while also thinking I need to push back the date I introduce my nephew to this show a little further...
The interior of a Borg cube has never looked better -- what stunning visuals.
I found them significantly scarier here than in the majority of their Voyager appearances. It's easy enough to put Zero in a distinct category as an amorphous energy cloud -- I don't think we've ever seen the Borg try to assimilate an energy being before.
I like how the franchise has run through so many eras of TV production that to count the episodes now is truly more art than science. As for me, I cling passionately to the Memory Alpha numbering system. This is episode 11 no matter what number Paramount+ puts on it and I'm holding to that till my grave!
Used to.
Its meant to inspire horror, so, no...not logical.
I think this has to be kept in mind. I know I'm not a child, but I would be curious how children would react, vs. the hyper-analytical way of adults.
Hologram Janeway says in the episode that the neurolytic pathogen from VOY “Endgame”‘ disabled their nanoprobes and sent them into a dormant state. This is consistent and explains why in PIC Jurati says the Borg are “decimated and functionally crippled.”
I’m like 90% sure we did see something like this happen in the early Borg appearances of TNG, when they were still figuring out the rules of not making yourself appear like a threat.
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