Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x10 - "A Moral Star, Part 2"
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watch "dreamcatcher" and pay attention to gwyn.With WHAT?
For the moment.
Maybe they could fix Tars Lamora's power supply. But would they?
what makes you think that moment is within minutes of them leaving him there?
why would they not?
Those kids all knew what it was like to live under the Diviner's rule. I doubt any of them would be in a particular hurry to help him.
Rok-Tahk is the only one I can think of who might object to leaving him behind on Tars Lamora. Mainly because she's so sweet and innocent. (And, since she's Brikar, she's by nature stronger and probably didn't feel as much pain as the rest of them did.)
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Wow. Never in my wildest dreams have I thought a Trek story could be so professionally told. This series raises and keeps raising the bar in unexpected ways and we're only half way through. I cannot wait to see what this means for the franchise as a whole.
All that said, I am still withholding top honors because I suspect, for as good as it has been so far, what's to come will really knock out socks off. 9.9
All that said, I am still withholding top honors because I suspect, for as good as it has been so far, what's to come will really knock out socks off. 9.9
you make a very good observation: commbadges aren’t usually randomly found on a bridge console.
I initially took this detail at face value, because “the show is for kids”, but in retrospective, seeing how well written it usually is, I wonder if there isn’t more to it, as you say.
I was thinking they might be cadet uniforms but not sure.
That seems kind of cruel and not the Starfleet way. In reality he should be arrested and stand trial and go to prison or I guess in this case be put into a mental hospital.
Indeed.
It seems unlikely the Diviner could be mentally competent to stand trial. Although...if this is all a Medusan-induced hallucination and he really is in the Protostar's brig, perhaps they could return him to Solum (once he recovers) and he could help his people rebuild. Which is basically all he ever wanted anyway.
"There is no barrier we cannot overcome, for we are Vau N'Akat". Well, as devastating as the civil war was...it's just another barrier.
Is there anything left to rebuild? I was of the impression he would have been the only survivor.
To be fair, there’s nothing in need of rebuilding in the show’s present, first contact hasn’t happened yet, and the ruins of Solum were 50 years after that.
Right now all he would need to do was warn them, to prevent the knowledge of other life in the universe to lead to their civil war and eventual destruction.
Right now all he would need to do was warn them, to prevent the knowledge of other life in the universe to lead to their civil war and eventual destruction.
The problem is that if they developed Warp Drive, which would have happened since it's the only thing that would have had Starfleet make First Contact with them, is they will bump into other species soon enough whether they want to or not. They are basically screwed no matter what unless they decide to just not use warp drive like the aliens in "First Contact."
I don’t mean to suggest they should try to prevent them from the knowledge of other life in the universe, but to warn them of what he lived through, that letting that knowledge divide them into a civil war would cause their own destruction.
I can see that. I think though we might not have all info on these people. I suspect maybe their are cultural problems like racism or war or something that means maybe they were already on the brink of Civil War. I think maybe the bad guy whose name I forget is trying to blame his planets social problems on Starfleet and maybe the Civil War was inevitable do them not solving the problems they had already created themselves. We could be seeing a metaphor to modern day America and the bad guy might be a stand in for Trump.
Oh, I have no doubt that The Diviner is almost certainly putting more blame on the Federation than they deserve for their situation. He says the the conflict was between those who embraced the Federation and those who didn’t, so I think you’re right, that it probably created an isolationist contingent that would rather go to war against itself than let in someone from the outside.
I would hope that isolationist movement would be undermined and lose momentum with the foreknowledge that fighting amongst themselves would be the cause of their own end.
I would hope that isolationist movement would be undermined and lose momentum with the foreknowledge that fighting amongst themselves would be the cause of their own end.
I bet we see that first contact next season. It will Captain Chakotay who makes it. My guess is maybe he and his crew is living with survivors who welcomed Starfleet. At some point the Protostar crew will bump into Admiral Janeway and her ship and crew by discovering at the same time where he and those other people are hiding.
He can't.
First: the Diviner's gone mad (from looking at Zero) - he was in no condition to create coherent thoughts (among other things).
Second: The REV-12 was taken by the miners
He DOES need the suit... all other cut scenes show him being incredibly weak and barely functioning without it (at the edge of proverbial death it seems).
So, the last scene doesn't make much sense unless it was shown out of context (aka inside his mind, or inside a holodeck on the Protostar which was modified to also simulate the conditions of the tank without any liquid).
As for repairing the food replicators... even if they have, people who have gone mad from looking at Medusans don't strike me as type of people who would pay enough attention to when they're hungry.
Real life people with certain mental health issues frequently forget to eat, bathe or take care of themselves... aka, they NEED constant supervision and care to live.
Unless the kids reprogrammed the robots on Tars Lamora to do the repairs/maintenance and to care for the Diviner, the final scene implies he was left helpless at Tars Lamora with no one to look after the Diviner (effectively leaving him to die) without his suit on even.
It’s pretty hard to warn against acquiring a certain knowledge without giving them that knowledge, thought
not necessarily: it could have happened due to an accident.
By the way, anyone noticing how the mad diviner is making a federation symbol with stones?
That isn’t what I meant
I only meant they should warn them that learning they aren’t alone had lead to a civil war that was their own destruction in The Diviner’s future, in order to prevent it from happening in the first place, not that they should keep the knowledge of other life from them.
One of their own (perhaps the Diviner and/or Gwyn) arriving with the outsiders during first contact to deliver the warning could maybe help the Vau N’Akat’s isolationist contingent from growing into power. By having a member of their own species with the Federation envoy it might diminish the xenophobic responses of some.
Fair enough. But I seem to understand that the Diviner is on the side of the isolationists in the first place.
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