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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x10 - "A Moral Star, Part 2"

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^ Yep.

We still don't know anything about the anomaly that sent the Protostar back in time to the 2360's. I doubt it was intentional on the Diviner's part - all he wanted was to travel back 50 years in his past (i.e. the present) and steal the ship. AFAIK, he didn't intend for it to get sent even further back. So we have no idea what the "anomaly" was all about, or what ultimately happened to Chakotay or the rest of the Protostar's original crew. We don't even know if they're still alive...
 
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It's likely in Chakotay last log. If he had the crew do the Scotty thing by putting everyone patterns into the transporter lope, which is likely hidden and won't be activated until a certain set time. Unless what is hidden is found and there's someone on board and member of the new crew that can find things.
 
Weren't some of the people on the Dauntless bridge supposed to be Chakotay's crew?
There was an interview with the writers where they claimed that the four announced actors (the Dauntless bridge crew plus Robert Beltran) weren't the original Protostar crew, and then they had to backtrack in a later interview and clarify that they meant everyone but Chakotay. Maybe you're thinking of that.
 
Weren't some of the people on the Dauntless bridge supposed to be Chakotay's crew?

There was an interview with the writers where they claimed that the four announced actors (the Dauntless bridge crew plus Robert Beltran) weren't the original Protostar crew, and then they had to backtrack in a later interview and clarify that they meant everyone but Chakotay. Maybe you're thinking of that.

You nailed it, @Ray Hardgrit, Prodigy writer/co-executive producer Aaron Waltke explained it to TrekMovie right after Kobayashi debuted.

TrekMovie said:
Regarding Chakotay, when I interviewed the Hagemans, I asked if Beltran and Chakotay and the other actors announced at the same time were the original crew of the Protostar, and they said they weren’t. Were they just protecting a spoiler, or is there some nuance to this?

Aaron J. Waltke via TrekMovie said:
In that instance it was a miscommunication–they misheard and thought the question was whether Doctor Noum (Jason Alexander), Ensign Asencia (Jameela Jamil), and Commander Tysess (Daveed Diggs) were the former crew of the Protostar. I can confirm that they are not Chakotay’s crew on the Protostar, but Chakotay was indeed the former captain. We couldn’t clarify that until now without it being a spoiler.

A lot of sites reported that Commander Tysess, Dr. Noum and Ensign Asencia were Chakotay’s crew, but that was always an assumption based on them all being announced together at NYCC, and they were never presented that way by any official source.

Now we understand the other three characters are Vice Admiral Janeway’s crew on the Dauntless and were never a part of Chakotay’s crew on the Protostar.
 
I think the general timeline we've been given is:

2366 - The Diviner is already looking for the Protostar, decides to have a kid.
2371 - Voyager goes missing in the Delta Quadrant.
2378 - Voyager returns home.
238X - The Protostar goes missing in the Delta Quadrant.
2383/84 - The present day. Dal's crew have the Protostar and Janeway's hunting them down.
2??? - Starfleet makes first contact with Solum.
243X - Solum is devastated by civil war, The Diviner travels back in time.
Exactly.
The Diviner is lying. Where is Gwyn mother?
She has no mother, she’s a clone realised through genetic engineering.
Why didn't he warn his own people of what's to come.
because it would mean telling them they are not alone in the galaxy, causing the war in the first place.

Also, it's Star Fleet protocol not to mention any presence and past starships names on first contact, except the starship making first contact. It's the only starship to be mention.
there is no such protocol. On the contrary, in the few instances we’ve seen a first contact happening the fact that there is a huge federation of many cultures is usually mentioned.
Moreover, I suspect that first contact with Solum was not planned: their society clearly wasn’t ready for it.

Which means, it was the Protostar that made first contact with the Diviner and Gwyn home world.
Not necessarily.

Then there's the civil war, it wasn't Star Fleet fault in the first place, it was brewing years, decades or centuries before first contact even happen. It was the fault of that world of the cause of the civil war.
Totally agree here, but the Diviner is of a different opinion, obsessed by destroying Starfleet in what’s ultimately a quite pointless plan.

Then there's the problem of the Diviner learning how to the command protocol of the Protostar in the first place. Chakotay wouldn't allow that to happen in the first place. The Diviner did learn the command codes to activate the protocore engines, cause Gwyn knew it, he most likely heard Chakotay mention it. Then there's the crew of the Protostar. Where are they?
Good questions, we’ll probably discover some of the answers in future episodes.
The ship still had its life pods when it was found, meaning they didn't leave that way. Which means they might be still on the ship itself.
They might. Or the ship might have automatically used the vehicle replicator to build new pods. Or they might have left other ways.
 
We’re also lucky enough to have Aaron Waltke be so detailed in his interviews, he’s already answered quite a few of these questions about the timeline and the Federation’s first contact with the Vau N’Akat on Solum. The interview from TrekMovie that posted following this episode is especially helpful.

Aaron J. Waltke via TrekMovie said:
We will definitely be answering some of those questions this season, so I won’t spoil anything coming. However, there are a few things we’ve revealed so far in this season that offer clues. Here’s what we know so far from the first ten episodes:

Chakotay was the captain of the Protostar, and they were sent to explore the Delta Quadrant with a hologram of Janeway. They flew through an anomaly. They were then was boarded by Drednok and The Diviner, who are from approximately fifty years in the future. They acquired the Protostar and made modifications to it with their own Solum coding, even going so far as to classify Holo-Janeway’s memories. The Diviner traveled back in time with a plan to use the Protostar, fly it to Starfleet “where it will be welcomed with open arms,” and then utilize a weapon that’s hidden aboard the ship to disrupt the Federation before they can make first contact with Solum so they “tear themselves apart.” However, this plan went awry—the Protostar was lost in the past, and The Diviner spent over seventeen years searching for it, until it was found on Tars Lamora. Now, The Diviner is growing desperate, and he feels they are running out of time.

Given all of that, I think it is safe to conclude that the Federation’s exploration efforts in the Delta Quadrant are nearing Solum and will attempt to make first contact soon, but the Protostar came to them later. The Protostar is viewed by The Diviner as the Vau N’Akat’s “salvation”—part of a plan to use the ship to prevent the Federation from ever reaching Solum, thus sparing his civilization from the promises of other worlds that tore them apart. Ideas can be viewed as dangerous things to a society that may or may not be ready for them. Hence, why he was reticent to go back to Solum before his mission was finished.
 
Mercy and compassion would have been TO kill him, not leave him to die slowly on an abandoned asteroid with no food, water or power (or even the suit he needs to survive).

Like I said: Nobody deserves to die like that. Not even the Diviner. I don't CARE what he's done. Far as I'm concerned, anyone who gloats over the Diviner's suffering and (eventual) death is no better than he.

Yes, because all slaves (and that's what they were) want to save their cruel former master once they're emancipated.
 
They're Holo Janeway's Starfleet cadets though, and whenever choices like this come up in the series we usually get some discussion first. Then Dal wants to do the bad thing, the others want to do the right thing, and he learns a lesson.
 
So we are assuming 2 time jumps then, the Diviner travelling back to when Chakotay was commanding the Protostar, and then the Protostar being thrown back to TNG Season 3, and lost until the kids found her again.
 
So we are assuming 2 time jumps then, the Diviner travelling back to when Chakotay was commanding the Protostar, and then the Protostar being thrown back to TNG Season 3, and lost until the kids found her again.

We are going with 2 jumps with available information (or at least I did).

First one was intentional (the Diviner's original 50 year jump to the past - before SF's First Contact with Solum), and the second (accidental) one which threw the Diviner/Drednok again over 17 years into the past WITH the Protostar (to before 2366).

If you recall, during the '17 years ago' sequence (just before the Diviner decided to make Gwyn), Drednok mentioned that there have been many failed attempts at finding the Protostar for 'years' (possibly more).

So, the Diviner/Drednok ended up roughly 70 years into their past... whereas the Protostar ended up roughly 20 odd years into its past.

I already presented a sequence of events before where I said the 'anomaly' Chakotay mentioned in his distress call was the one created by the Diviner's first temporal jump from around 2433.
Drednok then boards the ship, attacks the crew and Chakotay (also discovering Chakotay's command codes in the process) and the Diviner uploads his weapon into Protostar's systems. Chakotay and the crew (or just Chakotay), manage to take back control of the ship somehow, but something goes awry because the original anomaly is still there and something as a result of Chakotay's efforts to escape causes the animaly to throw both the Protostar and the REV-12 (assuming the REV-12 was built originally around 2433) into the past.

Chakotay then realizing the ship is in the past along with a weapon from the Diviner that could destroy Starfleet, manages to hide the ship inside Tars Lamora (where it would be surrounded by Chimerium and make it invisible to sensors). I guess he figured it was the best way to avoid damaging/altering the timeline and preserve Starfleet. Though, one would have thought in that case: why didn't Chakotay just initiate self-destruct in the past to prevent the ship from ever being a threat?

One possible explanation is that Chakotay didn't know about Diviner's weapon, and wanted to make use of the Protostar at a later date when sufficient time has passed... the self-destruct mechanism may have been damaged, or because the Proto-core presented a too big of a danger to the environment if the ship self-destructed... but then Chakotay could have simply Proto-Jumped away thousands of Ly's (out of the Diviner's grasp)... but the Proto Warp could have ended up damaged at the time, so the only viable thing would have been to hide the ship (with running not being an option) and allow the self-repair systems to repair critical damage before powering it down permanently.

Also, if you want to go further down the rabbit hole, the Borg also could have factored into Chakotay's decision. I mean, they were still perfectly fine in that time frame, and why would you want to risk them potentially assimilating the thing (plus, Tars Lamora's position in the galaxy would have also been near that TransWarp Hub VOY destroyed).

I somehow think they may have missed a few possible options/steps if my hypothesis is accurate... or because of his encounter with the anomaly, Chakotay realized the Protostar will play a bigger role at some point down the line and the ship had to be preserved, and that anything short of that could present a problem?
 
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Yes, because all slaves (and that's what they were) want to save their cruel former master once they're emancipated.

Oh, don't mistake my meaning, I'm not excusing the Diviner's crimes. I just have this seemingly odd notion that all criminals deserve decent treatment and a fair trial (and even redemption if possible), not starvation, torture and slow death.

I'm funny that way.
 
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Oh, don't mistake my meaning, I'm not excusing the Diviner's crimes. I just have this seemingly odd notion that all criminals deserve decent treatment and a fair trial (and even redemption if possible), not starvation, torture and slow death.

I'm funny that way.
who would be the judge, jury, etc.? what makes you think he's starving, getting tortured, and dying?
 
Oh, don't mistake my meaning, I'm not excusing the Diviner's crimes. I just have this seemingly odd notion that all criminals deserve decent treatment and a fair trial (and even redemption if possible), not starvation, torture and slow death.

I'm funny that way.
You must hate Princess Leia then :)
 
is the federation there?

Not right there, no, but they could have always thrown him in the brig and handed him over to Federation authorities once the Protostar reached the Alpha Quadrant.

But that wouldn't satisfy all this bloodlust, would it? The Diviner made people suffer - which, obviously, he actually did - and now they're gonna make HIM suffer too. Just some good old fashioned eye-for-an-eye payback, ain't it?

does that final scene show starvation, torture, or death?

It shows the Diviner left behind in the ruins of Tars Lamora, without the suit which he needs to survive, and also without food, power or water. (Remember, the Diviner blew up Tars Lamora's power supply at the end of part 1.) What would you call that, a walk in the park?
 
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Not right there, no, but they could have always thrown him in the brig and handed him over to Federation authorities once the Protostar reached the Alpha Quadrant.

But that wouldn't satisfy all this bloodlust, would it? The Diviner made people suffer - which, obviously, he actually did - and now they're gonna make HIM suffer too. Just some good old fashioned eye-for-an-eye payback, ain't it?



It shows the Diviner left behind in the ruins of Tars Lamora, without the suit which he needs to survive, and also without food, power or water. (Remember, the Diviner blew up Tars Lamora's power supply at the end of part 1.) What would you call that, a walk in the park?
he could escape like gwyn did, and could take control of the ship like he did before.

didn't he collapse as soon as the suit tube was ripped off? here he is still alive and awake, so he doesn't need the suit there. what makes you think the people who did a pretty good engineering job in all these episodes can't repair whatever is necessary for food replicators?
 
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