Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

[cooleddie74]

And then a robed Vulcan monk asks them what they're doing on restricted monastery grounds.

We just wrote a pretty good episode. Let's sell this to the guys at Axanar and make a fortune!

 

[The Old Mixer]

Well at some point he goes back to Earth to talk to Riker and Troi but that could still be a couple or more episodes down the road. Immediately? Maybe not.

Do we know that's Earth? Given its place in the story line, I'm inclined to think that the Trois may be on Betazed now, or somewhere else.

Meets Seven at the chateau as well

And do we know that's the chateau? The line "What the hell are you doing out here, Picard?" never made any sense in that context.

 

[DaveyNY]

I see that Johnathan Frakes directed this weeks episode.

 

[matthunter]

Rumpole

Buy me a drink first.

 

[ITDUDE]

He was creepy and annoying, almost as bad as Neelix and Picardo is a terrible overactor making the character seem like a weird caricature.

Not even by the abysmal standards of Voyager.

Your characterisation of other characters is mostly correct, and Doctor was certainly memorable... by being so incredibly annoying.

I've seen them. Annoying overcating that makes the character look like caricature. I guess I can understand why some would find that refreshing over the nondescript blandness of the most of the the Voyager cast though.

Someone just doesn't like Voyager
Seriously, he was second best character on the show, right after Janeway. I'd rather get few more episodes focused on him than ANY episodes focused on Chuckles.

Okay? I’m still not seeing where that means the two are distinct programs?

They also have different accents and personalities.
I don't see how they are the same program.

I hate this expression, but distinction without a difference. One program or two, doesn't matter. We definitely had two different avatars, with different personalizes and different skillset. They all reside somewhere in the computer core. Does it really matter if they are one or two, or multiple distinct programs?

Incomprehensible a third of the time and overly chatty all the time.

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Can you use Cortana on an Apple device?!

I can use Siri on my iPhone to bring up Google Assistant. It's hilarious as hell to everyone around me l every time I do it

I hope we get an Enterprise-E scene like the station wagon crushing scene from National Lampoon's Vacation...

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Ah the good old time when Chevy Chase was still funny

As much as I dislike EAS for a lot of their preconceptions, and whining about the Kelvin movies and Discovery, this article is fascinating. Click!

You linked to EAS, rest of your point has been invalidated

I kinda hope that they're doing kinda the opposite with Oh than they did with Lorca. Make her look like she is an obvious moustache twirling cartoon villain and later reveal that she is not, and has been bullshitting the Zhash Vash (or whatever the Romulan infiltrators are) to find out their plans.

I had the same thought. If she turns out to be the good guy/girl/Vulcan, the Interwebz will explode

 

[BillJ]

The most impressive thing about the Picard show that I'm surprised isn't getting more attention is that this is the first non-military non-Starfleet Star Trek show.

Is it though? Starfleet, even in the background, still seems to be driving much of what is going on.

 

[AlanC9]

I can use Siri on my iPhone to bring up Google Assistant. It's hilarious as hell to everyone around me l every time I do it

Does Siri say " Hey Google" to do it?

 

[Yistaan]

I mean, I think that will become more clear show moves on.

I mean, maybe. It depends on when Elrohir had him.

The Last Best Hope novel that just came out has Elnor's info and background in it.

 

[SG-17]

Annoying overcating that makes the character look like caricature

You talking about the Doctor or yourself?

 

[Longinus]

You talking about the Doctor or yourself?

Both.

 

[Iamnotspock]

All I can think of is Extras.

"I have encountered a woman; she came to me for help. Then, all her clothes fell off. She scrambled to get them back on but I'd seen everything... Then, this Starfleet Admiral told me, "Oi, you can't go back into space!" and I went, "Oh no?", and her uniform fell off and she went, "Ahh!", but I'd seen everything, and I hired a ship and I flew off.

Into space."

 

[The Old Mixer]

You talking about the Doctor or yourself?

These personal snipes need to stop.

 

[Phoenix219]

Just watched the second episode.

Just noticed the irony - Picard is literally asking to be Jim Kirk.

Demote me to Captain and give me a ship, dammit, because I have to go save the soul of my dead best friend and put it to rest while becoming involved in galactic politics and secret weapons and what not - and if you don't do what I want, I am going to get a ship and do it anyways. The only thing missing is actually stealing the Enterprise E to do it.

Also saw a bit of Orville in there, what with the Kaylon revolt after being treated as underclass property, much like the plastic people on Mars.

 

[ITDUDE]

The only thing missing is actually stealing the Enterprise E to do it.

Riker will help with this bit

 

[Alan Roi]

And then a robed Vulcan monk asks them what they're doing on restricted monastery grounds.

Before Death himself hurls them down to their doom.

 

[Alan Roi]

Just watched the second episode.

Just noticed the irony - Picard is literally asking to be Jim Kirk.

Demote me to Captain and give me a ship, dammit, because I have to go save the soul of my dead best friend and put it to rest while becoming involved in galactic politics and secret weapons and what not - and if you don't do what I want, I am going to get a ship and do it anyways. The only thing missing is actually stealing the Enterprise E to do it.

Also saw a bit of Orville in there, what with the Kaylon revolt after being treated as underclass property, much like the plastic people on Mars.

Well, Picard as a cadet did come across as a Kirk wannabe, so this is kind of full circle.

As for a bit of Orville, the synths don't even appear to have the self awareness of a first boot emergency medical hologram. In order for them to seem to me like an underclass property, they would actually have to be remotely aware that they are, and there's no evidence of this. They might as well be toasters for how they are used in the Martian attack.

 

[DaveyNY]

The Synth's to me seemed more like mobile iPhones rather than functioning human-like beings.

Hell RUK was closer to being a human than anything we've seen in Android form in PICARD.

I guess we should be glad that our phones don't have arms & legs.

 

[Phoenix219]

Well, Picard as a cadet did come across as a Kirk wannabe, so this is kind of full circle.

As for a bit of Orville, the synths don't even appear to have the self awareness of a first boot emergency medical hologram. In order for them to seem to me like an underclass property, they would actually have to be remotely aware that they are, and there's no evidence of this. They might as well be toasters for how they are used in the Martian attack.

Its been two decades since I did a serious viewing of TNG - remind me of Picard as a cadet?

It definitely feels likely that the synths were hacked/used/controlled, but we don't know what the trigger for awareness is, OR at what point the Kaylons became aware, either.

 

[Alan Roi]

Its been two decades since I did a serious viewing of TNG - remind me of Picard as a cadet?

It definitely feels likely that the synths were hacked/used/controlled, but we don't know what the trigger for awareness is, OR at what point the Kaylons became aware, either.

I'd recommend rewatching Tapestry. Young Picard was cocky, chased women, got into bar fights. The Kaylon discussed their reasons for rebelliing, implying a self awareness comparable at least to RUK's from What Little Girls Are Made Of.

 

[Phoenix219]

I'd recommend rewatching Tapestry. Young Picard was cocky, chased women, got into bar fights. The Kaylon discussed their reasons for rebelliing, implying a self awareness comparable at least to RUK's from What Little Girls Are Made Of.

I remember the gist of Tapestry, but not the details.... kind of funny that Kirk as a cadet was a walking stack of books with legs, then... a bit of role reversal along the way haha.

I've always wondered, with the melting pot of sources that became TNG (Ilia/Troi, William Decker/Riker, Xon/Data), if PIKard (and his catchphrase of "Engage") was taken from The Cage.