Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. FundyDen

    FundyDen Lieutenant Junior Grade Newbie

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    I have to say I was disappointed in the second season of picard but I do look forward to season 3 if it happens.
     
  2. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    However good S3 may be, I'm not sure it can make up for Rios being "weeping angel'd", Jurati not only being assimilated but presumably being in a living hell for 4 centuries (As Picard himself said about "crewmembers who've already been assimilated. Don't hesitate to fire. Believe me you'll be doing them a favour. ...Let's go.)

    Just what were they thinking there? Alison and Santiago must be the nicest people in the business because I think any other actor would've been seriously ticked off (note for example John Boyega and even Oscar Isaac's somewhat bitter comments on the arcs of their characters over at that other star franchise, and even with them the door's still open to come back and improve future storylines, whereas Rios and Jurati are basically torpedoed characters now)
     
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  3. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Its been filmed. Pretty sure it’s happening.
     
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  5. Shazam!

    Shazam! Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Oh no.
     
  6. The Wormhole

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    As her and the Queen appear to be living in some sort of a symbiosis running a new Borg collective molded in Agnes's own ideas of cooperation rather than subjugation, I don't think her existence is anything resembling a "living hell."
    They got two seasons on a show that's part of a high profile franchise, and from the looks of it both have steady work lined up for them after leaving the show. And presumably they enjoyed the time they spent on the show and working with the other actors and the behind the scenes personnel. I see no reason why they should be "ticked off" about any of that.
     
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  7. timtonruben359

    timtonruben359 Captain Captain

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    Alison Pill stated in a recent interview the entire cast knew from day one the show was probably only going to run three seasons and that it was never guaranteed any of them would be along for the whole ride. She also said she was thrilled with her storyline in S2. Arguably, I think the Agnus/Borg Queen story was probably the best part of an "interesting" season. Also Akiva has strongly hinted Agnus may be back in some form down the road. No one really "dies" in Star Trek.

    As for the other cast members, who knows what they really feel but you don't get into acting because you expect job security. Santiago already is working on other stuff, and frankly being a part of Trek means they have a meal ticket for life on the convention circuit if they can't find other jobs. Also, I strongly suspect we're going to get a Seven/Raffi spin-off and it would be easy for them to bring back Elnor and Soji if that's the case.
     
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    Anduinel Commander Red Shirt

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    I think Elnor is probably along for the ride if Seven and Raffi get a spin-off; making him more Raffi's surrogate son than Picard's long-neglected responsibility gives them a kind of family unit. Soji might be a little harder to include given that she's in a pretty important role to her people, but there's a lot that can happen to change that (good or bad!).
     
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  9. The Knappos

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    Alison Pill was the highlight of season 2
     
  10. eschaton

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    I'm still a bit mystified regarding Seasons 2/3 of Picard, insofar as Matalas seems like he was hired as showrunner for Season 2, abandoned it entirely to Akiva Goldsman, and then was given free reign to do whatever the hell he wanted with Season 3.
     
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  11. Lord Garth

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    I think it's a simple case of handling two seasons back-to-back was too much to handle.
     
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  12. Precious Tritium

    Precious Tritium Commander Red Shirt

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    Seems like before season 2 aired Matalas was hyping the hell out of it, then as soon as some of the negative reviews started coming in, he basically backpedaled and said the whole season was Goldsman's. Given Akiva's been working on both this and SNW simultaneously, I'm left wondering how he had the time.

    At the end of the day did season 2 even have a showrunner in the traditional sense?
     
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  13. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Eh? Not really.
     
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  14. cal888

    cal888 Commander Red Shirt

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    I'd suggest listening to his Inglorious Treksperts interview and read between the lines. Matalas was pulled off MacGyver during it's fourth season, where he worked with fellow Picard season 2 writers Travis Fickett and Cindy Appel to co-showrun the second season. COVID restrictions and production delays then heavily altered the course of the second season. Matalas came up with the time travel broad outline, and Akiva Goldsman added the childhood trauma elements etc. But there are elements from Matalas in even the later part of the season, from casting Jay Karnes to the 12 Monkeys and MacGyver Easter eggs. For example, Spearhead Opporations was a mercenary group in MacGyver that a new main character owned. And that itself is a callback to 12 Monkeys Project Spearhead, which was a military group trying to develop a vaccine against a super deadly mutating virus.
     
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  15. timtonruben359

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    I think, based on things both Terry Matlas and Akiva Goldsman have said, Matlas was hired to be co-showrunner with Goldman during S2 and then solo showrunner for S3. This was likely due the fact that Seasons 2&3 were going to be filmed back to back so this allowed writing of the two seasons 2 overlap. It's clear that while Matlas had input into S2 he was very much focused on S3 almost from the word go. In his Inglorious Treksperts interview, he had extensive talks and negocations with the TNG cast back in 2020 which is when S2 was just being written.
     
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    Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

    Or magic 8 balls.

    Also, please look up humor.
     
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  18. Campe

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    “Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical.”

    Particularly on the interwebs. :hugegrin:
     
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  19. Lord Garth

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    Didn't think about this until now, but Worf will be the first character to ever be a main character in three Star Trek series. Seven would be the second if she gets a spin-off.

    Moral of the Story: be a Bad-Ass!
     
  20. Danlav05

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    They'll all be listed as regular, right?

    Brent was listed as such even though he was only in 5 episodes for S2. (We know Marina was only there for 2 out of 6 months) not all 7 TNG regulars I don't think will be in all 10 episodes.